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3:7:1

משנה: אֵילּוּ דְבָרִים שֶׁיֵּשׁ לָהֶם חֲזָקָה וְאֵילּוּ דְבָרִים שֶׁאֵין לָהֶם חֲזָקָה. הָיָה מַעֲמִיד בְּהֵמָה בֶחָצֵר תַּנּוּר וְכִירַיִם וְרֵיחַיִם וּמְגַדֵּל תַּרְנְגוֹלִין וְנוֹתֵן זִבְלוֹ בֶחָצֵר אֵינָהּ חֲזָקָה. אֲבָל עָשָׂה לִבְחֶמְתּוֹ מְחִיצָה גְּבוֹהָה י̇ טְפָחִים וְכֵן לַתַּנּוּר וְכֵן לַכִּירַיִים וְכֵן לָרֵחַיִם. הִכְנִיס תַּרְנְגוֹלִין לְתוֹךְ הַבַּיִת וְעָשָׂה מָקוֹם לְזִבְלוֹ עָמוֹק ג̇ אוֹ גָבוֹהַּ ג̇ הֲרֵי זוֹ חֲזָקָה.

MISHNAH: The following count for a claim of undisturbed possession and the following do not count for a claim of undisturbed possession108For non-agricultural properties where there is no direct equivalent of storing the harvest in one’s silo.. If one put his animals into a courtyard, an oven, a cooking stove, or a grindstone, or raises chickens, or puts his manure in a courtyard, it does not count for a claim of undisturbed possession109Since each of the co-owners of the courtyard does this, nobody can be assumed to check whether the person doing this really be entitled to it.. But if he made for his animals an enclosure ten [handbreadths] high, or did it for an oven, a cooking stove, or a grindstone, brought chickens into the house, or made a place for his manure three [handbreadths] low or three high: this counts for a claim of undisturbed possession110Since people will complain if he does not have property rights to do what he is doing..

MISHNAH: The following count for a claim of undisturbed possession and the following do not count for a claim of undisturbed possession108For non-agricultural properties where there is no direct equivalent of storing the harvest in one’s silo.. If one put his animals into a courtyard, an oven, a cooking stove, or a grindstone, or raises chickens, or puts his manure in a courtyard, it does not count for a claim of undisturbed possession109Since each of the co-owners of the courtyard does this, nobody can be assumed to check whether the person doing this really be entitled to it.. But if he made for his animals an enclosure ten [handbreadths] high, or did it for an oven, a cooking stove, or a grindstone, brought chickens into the house, or made a place for his manure three [handbreadths] low or three high: this counts for a claim of undisturbed possession110Since people will complain if he does not have property rights to do what he is doing..

3:7:2

הלכה: אֵילּוּ דְבָרִים שֶׁיֵּשׁ לָהֶן חֲזָקָה כול׳. אָמַר רִבִּי לָעְזָר. נָהֲגוּ הַשּׁוּתָפִין לִהְיוֹת מַתִּרִין זֶה לָזֶה בַּתַּרְנוֹגַלִּין. אָמַר רִבִּי יוֹסֵה. מַתְנִיתָא לֹא אָמְרָה כֵן. אֶלָּא שְׁנֵיהֶן אֲסוּרִין לְהַעֲמִיד רֵיחַיִם וְתַנּוּר וּלְגַדֵּל תַּרְנוֹגַלִּין. אָמַר רִבִּי לָעְזָר. גִּידֵּל תַּרְנָגַּלִּין בֶּחָצֶר שֶׁאֵינָהּ שֶׁלּוֹ הֲרֵי זוֹ חֲזָקָה. אָמַר רִבִּי יוֹסֵי. וְיֵאוּת. מַה נַפְשֵׁךְ. אִם יֵשׁ לוֹ רְשׁוּת לְגַדֵּל הֲרֵי זֶה גִידֵּל. אִם אֵין לוֹ רְשׁוּת לְגַדֵּל הֲרֵי זוֹ חֲזָקָה.

HALAKHAH: “The following count for a claim of undisturbed possession,” etc. Rebbi Eleazar said, co-owners usually permit chickens to one another111One does not have to ask for the other’s permission to raise chickens in the common courtyard.. Rebbi Yose said, a Mishnah112Nedarim 5:1 (Note 4): Co-owners who mutually made vows not to have usufruct from one another are forbidden to raise chickens in the common courtyard. says otherwise: “Both of them are forbidden to put up there a grindstone or an oven, or to raise chickens there.” Rebbi Eleazar said, if somebody raised chickens in a courtyard which is not his, it is taking in possession113If the owners of the courtyard do not hinder the raising of chickens from the start, later they become claimants and bear the burden of proof to remove the chickens.. Rebbi Yose said, this is correct. As you take it, if he has permission to raise chickens there, he raises them. If he does not have permission to raise, it would be legally taking in possession.

HALAKHAH: “The following count for a claim of undisturbed possession,” etc. Rebbi Eleazar said, co-owners usually permit chickens to one another111One does not have to ask for the other’s permission to raise chickens in the common courtyard.. Rebbi Yose said, a Mishnah112Nedarim 5:1 (Note 4): Co-owners who mutually made vows not to have usufruct from one another are forbidden to raise chickens in the common courtyard. says otherwise: “Both of them are forbidden to put up there a grindstone or an oven, or to raise chickens there.” Rebbi Eleazar said, if somebody raised chickens in a courtyard which is not his, it is taking in possession113If the owners of the courtyard do not hinder the raising of chickens from the start, later they become claimants and bear the burden of proof to remove the chickens.. Rebbi Yose said, this is correct. As you take it, if he has permission to raise chickens there, he raises them. If he does not have permission to raise, it would be legally taking in possession.

Texts

  • Hebrew: The Jerusalem Talmud, edition by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015 · License: CC-BY
  • English: The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015 · License: CC-BY

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