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4:2:1

משנה: עָמְדָה בְבֵית דִּין עַד שֶלֹּא בָגְרָה הֲרֵי הֵן שֶׁלָּאַב. מֵת הָאָב הֲרֵי הֵן שֶׁלָּאַחִין. לֹא הִסְפִּיקָה לַעֲמוֹד בְּבֵית דִּין עַד שֶׁבָּגְרָה הֲרֵי הֵן שֶׁלְּעַצְמָהּ. רִבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן אוֹמֵר אִם לֹא הִסְפִּיקָה לִגְבּוֹת עַד שֶׁמֵּת הָאָב הֲרֵי הֵן שֶׁלְּעַצְמָהּ. מַעֲשֵׂה יָדֶיהָ וּמְצִיאָתָהּ אַף עַל פִּי שֶׁלֹּא גָּבְתָה מֵת הָאָב הֲרֵי הֵן שֶׁלָּאַחִין.

MISHNAH: If she did appear in court before she became an adult, [the payments] belong to her father, after the father’s death, they belong to the brothers. If she did not appear in court before she became an adult, they belong to herself. Rebbi Simeon says, if she did not collect before the father died, they belong to herself29R. Simeon holds that the father’s rights start only with the delivery of the money as explained in the Halakhah (and the Babli, 42b). The anonymous majority hold that the payment ordered by the court can be enforced by foreclosure and therefore is ready money and part of the estate.. Her earnings and what she finds, even if she had not collected [by the time] the father died, belong to the brothers30The earnings of an underage daughter belong to the father since even the money given for a preliminary marriage of an underage daughter is pocketed by her father (Mishnah 4:6). After the death of the father only uncollected earlier earnings go to the estate, not her later earnings. The situation is slightly paradoxical since the brothers are obligated to support their unmarried sister but the father has only a religious, not a legal duty to support his daughters (Halakhah 4:8)..

MISHNAH: If she did appear in court before she became an adult, [the payments] belong to her father, after the father’s death, they belong to the brothers. If she did not appear in court before she became an adult, they belong to herself. Rebbi Simeon says, if she did not collect before the father died, they belong to herself29R. Simeon holds that the father’s rights start only with the delivery of the money as explained in the Halakhah (and the Babli, 42b). The anonymous majority hold that the payment ordered by the court can be enforced by foreclosure and therefore is ready money and part of the estate.. Her earnings and what she finds, even if she had not collected [by the time] the father died, belong to the brothers30The earnings of an underage daughter belong to the father since even the money given for a preliminary marriage of an underage daughter is pocketed by her father (Mishnah 4:6). After the death of the father only uncollected earlier earnings go to the estate, not her later earnings. The situation is slightly paradoxical since the brothers are obligated to support their unmarried sister but the father has only a religious, not a legal duty to support his daughters (Halakhah 4:8)..

4:2:2

הלכה: עָמְדָה בְבֵית דִּין עַד שֶלֹּא בָגְרָה כול׳. תַּנֵּי רִבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן יוֹחֵי. וְנָתַן הָאִישׁ הַשּׁוֹכֵב עִמָּהּ לַאֲבִי הַנַּעֲרָה חֲמִשִּׁים כָּסֶף. מְלַמֵּד שֶׁאֵין הָאָב זוֹכֶה אֶלָּא בִנְתִינָה. רִבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן אוֹמֵר. בַּמִּגְבָּה הַדָּבָר תָּלוּי. וְרַבָּנִין אוֹמְרִין. בָּעֲמִידַת בֵּית דִּין הַדָּבָר תָּלוּי. רִבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן עֲבַד לָה כְּמַעֲשֵׂה בֵית דִּין וְרַבָּנִין עֲבְדִּין לָהּ כְּמִלְוֶוה. עַל דַּעְתֵּיהּ דְּרִבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן גּוֹבֶה בְּעִידִית. עַל דַעְתּוֹן דְּרַבָּנִין גּוֹבֶה בְּבֵינוֹנִית. עַל דַּעְתֵּיהּ דְּרִבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן אֵין הַשְּׁבִיעִית מְשַׁמְּטָתָהּ. עַל דַעְתּוֹן דְּרַבָּנִין הַשְּׁבִיעִית מְשַׁמְּטָתָהּ. עַל דַּעְתֵּיהּ דְּרִבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן הַבְּכוֹר נוֹטֵל פִּי שְׁנַיִם. עַל דַעְתּוֹן דְּרַבָּנִין אֵין הַבְּכוֹר נוֹטֵל פִּי שְׁנַיִם.

HALAKHAH: “If she did appear in court before she became an adult,” etc. Rebbi Simeon ben Ioḥai stated: “The man who had lain with her shall give 50 silver pieces to the girl’s father;” this teaches that the father acquires only by handing over31In the Babli, 42b, this is an Amoraic interpretation of R. Simeon’s position.. Rebbi Simeon says, the matter depends on the collection, but the rabbis say, the matter depends on the court procedure. Rebbi Simeon treats it as court decrees32Money receivable because of a judicial decision is not counted as property to be part of the estate since in many cases the collection of such a judgment depends on the claimant swearing that his claim was not otherwise satisfied and the heirs cannot swear for their deceased father. but the rabbis treat it as a loan33Outstanding documented loans are property and part of the estate since the debtor would have to prove his case if he claims that the loan had been repaid.. In the opinion of Rebbi Simeon, he forecloses from the best land; in the opinion of the rabbis he forecloses from average land34If the debtor is unable to pay cash and the creditor comes to foreclose real estate, Mishnah Giṭṭin 5:1 states that debts for torts are foreclosed from the most valuable real estate, loans from average, and a ketubah from the least valuable (R. Meïr says, from average.) The value is determined by the going rate for a unit of surface area.. In the opinion of Rebbi Simeon, the Sabbatical year does not cancel the debt; in the opinion of the rabbis the Sabbatical year cancels the debt35Only private debts are cancelled by the Sabbatical year, not those created by court order nor those handed over to a court for collection; Mishnah Ševi‘it 10:2. The details of the laws of the Sabbatical relating to this case are explained in Ševi‘it 10:2, Note 69.. In the opinion of Rebbi Simeon the firstborn takes a double portion; in the opinion of the rabbis the firstborn does not take a double portion36The law of inheritance of the firstborn (Deut. 21:17) states that the father has to give him a double portion (or 2/3, assuming there are only two sons) “of everything that is found with him”, meaning everything in actual possession at the time of death. Money due for an executable court order is money in possession; money due for an outstanding loan is not money in possession since it is subject to the uncertainties of a court proceeding if foreclosure is needed and the position of the firstborn is not privileged in regard to future income..

HALAKHAH: “If she did appear in court before she became an adult,” etc. Rebbi Simeon ben Ioḥai stated: “The man who had lain with her shall give 50 silver pieces to the girl’s father;” this teaches that the father acquires only by handing over31In the Babli, 42b, this is an Amoraic interpretation of R. Simeon’s position.. Rebbi Simeon says, the matter depends on the collection, but the rabbis say, the matter depends on the court procedure. Rebbi Simeon treats it as court decrees32Money receivable because of a judicial decision is not counted as property to be part of the estate since in many cases the collection of such a judgment depends on the claimant swearing that his claim was not otherwise satisfied and the heirs cannot swear for their deceased father. but the rabbis treat it as a loan33Outstanding documented loans are property and part of the estate since the debtor would have to prove his case if he claims that the loan had been repaid.. In the opinion of Rebbi Simeon, he forecloses from the best land; in the opinion of the rabbis he forecloses from average land34If the debtor is unable to pay cash and the creditor comes to foreclose real estate, Mishnah Giṭṭin 5:1 states that debts for torts are foreclosed from the most valuable real estate, loans from average, and a ketubah from the least valuable (R. Meïr says, from average.) The value is determined by the going rate for a unit of surface area.. In the opinion of Rebbi Simeon, the Sabbatical year does not cancel the debt; in the opinion of the rabbis the Sabbatical year cancels the debt35Only private debts are cancelled by the Sabbatical year, not those created by court order nor those handed over to a court for collection; Mishnah Ševi‘it 10:2. The details of the laws of the Sabbatical relating to this case are explained in Ševi‘it 10:2, Note 69.. In the opinion of Rebbi Simeon the firstborn takes a double portion; in the opinion of the rabbis the firstborn does not take a double portion36The law of inheritance of the firstborn (Deut. 21:17) states that the father has to give him a double portion (or 2/3, assuming there are only two sons) “of everything that is found with him”, meaning everything in actual possession at the time of death. Money due for an executable court order is money in possession; money due for an outstanding loan is not money in possession since it is subject to the uncertainties of a court proceeding if foreclosure is needed and the position of the firstborn is not privileged in regard to future income..

4:2:3

רִבִּי זְעִירָא שָׁלַח לְרַב נַחְמָן בַּר יַעֲקֹב וּלְרִבִּי אִימִּי בַּר פַּפַּי. מַעֲשֵׂה יְדֵי הַבַּת שֶׁלְּמִי. אָמְרוּ לֵיהּ. שׁוֹקֵד אָמַר. לְעַצְמָהּ. מַנִּי שׁוֹקֵד. שְׁמוּאֵל. אָמַר רִבִּי מַתָּנָה. בְּשֵּׁם רִבִי אָמְרוּהָ וּמִדְרָשׁ אָמְרוּהָ. וְהִתְנַחַלְתֶּם אוֹתָם לִבְנֵיכֶם אַחֲרֵיכֶם לָרֶשֶׁת אֲחוּזָה. אוֹתָם לִבְנֵיכֶם. לֹא בְנוֹתֵיכֶם לִבְנֵיכֶם. בְּמַעֲשֵׂה יְדֵי הַבַּת הַכָּתוּב מְדַבֵּר. אָמַר רִבִּי יוּדָן. מַתְנִיתָא אָמְרָה כֵן מַעֲשֵׂה יָדֶיהָ וּמְצִיאָתָהּ אַף עַל פִּי שֶׁלֹּא גָּבָת וּמֵת הָאָב הֲרֵי הֵן שֶׁלָּאַחִין. מַעֲשֵׂה שֶׁעָשָׂת בְּחַיֵי הָאָב. אֲבָל עָשָׂת לְאַחַר מִיתַת הָאָב כָּל עַמָא מוֹדוּ שֶׁהֵן שֶׁלְּעַצְמָהּ.

37A slightly different version of the entire paragraph is in the Babli, 43b, where R. Ze‘ira points out that the brothers have to support their sisters but do not receive their incomes. Rebbi Ze‘ira sent to Rav Naḥman bar Jacob and Rebbi Immi bar Pappai38In the Babli Rav Abime bar Pappai; cf. Note 262.: Who owns the earnings of the daughter? They said to him, the diligent said, herself. Who is the diligent? Samuel! Rebbi Mattanah said, it was said in the name of Rebbi39In the Babli: Rav. as explanation of a verse: “You shall give them as inheritance to your sons to inherit property,” those to your sons and not your daughters to your sons; the verse speaks about the earnings of the daughter16In Babylonian sources, this is a tannaitic statement: Ketubot 43a, Qiddušin 16b; Sifra Behar Parašah6(5). The verse, Lev. 25:46, speaks of Gentile slaves. The main import of the verse is that slaves can be bought or inherited following the rules of real estate. As a side remark, it is stated that income due because of daughters does not become part of the estate.. Rebbi Yudan said, the Mishnah says so: “Her earnings and what she finds, even if she had not collected when the father died, belong to the brothers.” Anything she earned during her father’s lifetime. But what she earned after her father’s death according to everybody is hers40If the heirs retained the right to the earnings of the underage daughters, the Mishnah would not have to emphasize that they retain the right to income earned but not collected. The same argument in the Babli, 43a..

37A slightly different version of the entire paragraph is in the Babli, 43b, where R. Ze‘ira points out that the brothers have to support their sisters but do not receive their incomes. Rebbi Ze‘ira sent to Rav Naḥman bar Jacob and Rebbi Immi bar Pappai38In the Babli Rav Abime bar Pappai; cf. Note 262.: Who owns the earnings of the daughter? They said to him, the diligent said, herself. Who is the diligent? Samuel! Rebbi Mattanah said, it was said in the name of Rebbi39In the Babli: Rav. as explanation of a verse: “You shall give them as inheritance to your sons to inherit property,” those to your sons and not your daughters to your sons; the verse speaks about the earnings of the daughter16In Babylonian sources, this is a tannaitic statement: Ketubot 43a, Qiddušin 16b; Sifra Behar Parašah6(5). The verse, Lev. 25:46, speaks of Gentile slaves. The main import of the verse is that slaves can be bought or inherited following the rules of real estate. As a side remark, it is stated that income due because of daughters does not become part of the estate.. Rebbi Yudan said, the Mishnah says so: “Her earnings and what she finds, even if she had not collected when the father died, belong to the brothers.” Anything she earned during her father’s lifetime. But what she earned after her father’s death according to everybody is hers40If the heirs retained the right to the earnings of the underage daughters, the Mishnah would not have to emphasize that they retain the right to income earned but not collected. The same argument in the Babli, 43a..

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  • Hebrew: The Jerusalem Talmud, edition by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015 · License: CC-BY
  • English: The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015 · License: CC-BY

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