Talmud Yerushalmi
Yerushalmi Ketubot 9:3 ירושלמי כתובות ט׳:ג׳
Part of: Chapter 9
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משנה: הִנִּיחַ פֵּירוֹת הַתְּלוּשִׁין מִן הַקַּרְקַע כָּל הַקּוֹדֵם בָּהֶן זָכָה. זָכְתָה הָאִשָּׁה יוֹתֵר מִכְּתוּבָּתָהּ וּבַעַל חוֹב יוֹתֵר עַל חוֹבוֹ. הַמּוֹתָר רִבִּי טַרְפוֹן אוֹמֵר יִינָּתְנוּ לַכּוֹשֵׁל שֶׁבָּהֶן. רִבִּי עֲקִיבָה אוֹמֵר אֵין מְרַחֲמִין בַּדִּין אֶלָּא יִינָּתְנוּ לַיּוֹרְשִׁין שֶׁכּוּלָּן צְרִיכִין שְׁבוּעָה וְאֵין הַיּוֹרְשִׁין צְרִיכִין שְׁבוּעָה.
MISHNAH: If he left produce taken from the ground104Or any other movables not in the actual possession of the deceased., the one who takes them first105On condition that he have a legal claim on the estate, as widow or creditors do. acquires them. If the widow acquired more than her ketubah sum, or the creditor more than his claim, the remainder, Rebbi Ṭarphon says, should be given to the weakest among them106The excess over the claim has to be assigned by the court. A detailed study of the divergent interpretations of this Mishnah in Yerushalmi and Babli was made by I. Francus, שיטת הבבלי והירושלמי בתפיסת מטלטלין לגביית, Sinai 86 (1979/1980), 136–148.. Rebbi Aqiba says, one does not show mercy in law! But it should be given to the heirs since all others have to swear, only the heirs do not have to swear.
MISHNAH: If he left produce taken from the ground104Or any other movables not in the actual possession of the deceased., the one who takes them first105On condition that he have a legal claim on the estate, as widow or creditors do. acquires them. If the widow acquired more than her ketubah sum, or the creditor more than his claim, the remainder, Rebbi Ṭarphon says, should be given to the weakest among them106The excess over the claim has to be assigned by the court. A detailed study of the divergent interpretations of this Mishnah in Yerushalmi and Babli was made by I. Francus, שיטת הבבלי והירושלמי בתפיסת מטלטלין לגביית, Sinai 86 (1979/1980), 136–148.. Rebbi Aqiba says, one does not show mercy in law! But it should be given to the heirs since all others have to swear, only the heirs do not have to swear.
הלכה: הִנִּיחַ פֵּירוֹת תְּלוּשִׁין כול׳. רַב וְרִבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן לָקִישׁ תְּרֵיהוֹן אָמְרִין. בִּצְבוּרִין בְּסוּרְקִי. אֲבָל אִם צְבָרָן בְּבֵיתוֹ זָכָה לוֹ בֵיתוֹ. רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן אָמַר. וַאֲפִילוּ צְבוּרִין בְּתוֹךְ בֵּיתוֹ לֹא זָכָה לוֹ בֵיתוֹ. דַּהֲוָה סְבַר דְּאִינּוּן דִּידֵּהּ וְלֵית אִינּוּן דִּידֵּהּ. וַאֲתֵי בַעַל הַבַּיִת זָכָה בְּפֵירוֹתָיו בַּשְּׁבִיעִית. רִבִּי יִרְמְיָה סְבַר מֵימַר. מִשֶּׁיִּתְּנֵם לְתוֹךְ כֵּילָיו. אָמַר רִבִּי יוֹסֵי. אֲפִילוּ נְתָנָן לְתוֹךְ כֵּלָיו לֹא זָכָה בָהֶן. דַּהֲוָה סְבַר מֵימַר דְּאִינּוּן דִּידֵּיהּ וְלֵית אִינּוּן דִּידֵּהּ.
HALAKHAH: “If he left produce taken107In this and the preceding Mishnah, the Mishnah text differs in a few details from the common reading of most Mishnaiot but the text quoted in the Halakhah is the standard Mishnah text.,” etc. Both Rav and Rebbi Simeon ben Laqish say, if they were collected at a trading place108“A place of Saracens.” The problem discussed here is quite different from that discussed in the Babli, 84b, by the same authors. In the Yerushalmi, it is supposed that the acquirer removes the produce from the public place since it is obvious that it would not be his when left in the public place. But if the produce was already in a place belonging to the claimant, according to Rav and R. Simeon ben Laqish “a person’s courtyard acquires for him automatically” (Babli Baba meṣi‘a 10b). For R. Joḥanan, “a person’s courtyard acquires for him only by a conscious act.” Therefore, in a situation where an unlearned person could think that anything in a private domain to which the owner has a claim is automatically his, we may assume that the conscious act of acquisition is missing. This argument assumes that the first part of the Mishnah is everybody’s opinion and the difference between R. Ṭarphon and R. Aqiba refers only to the excess.
In the Babli, the entire first part of the Mishnah is considered R. Ṭarphon’s and everybody agrees that “a person’s courtyard acquires for him automatically”; cf. Note 106.. But if somebody collected it in his house, his house acquired for him. Rebbi Joḥanan said, even if he collected it in his house, his house did not acquire for him. For he thinks that they are his but they are not his. Does from this follow how the owner acquires his produce109The ripe produce is ownerless by biblical decree. Naturally, the owner of the property has the same right to take it as does everybody else. Anybody but the owner acquires simply by taking. How does the owner acquire, that taking from him would be theft? in a Sabbatical year? Rebbi Jeremiah wanted to say, from the moment he put them into his vessel. Rebbi Yose said, even if he put them into his vessel he did not acquire, for he thinks that they are his but they are not his110He can acquire only by a) putting the produce into his vessel and b) declaring that it is his..
HALAKHAH: “If he left produce taken107In this and the preceding Mishnah, the Mishnah text differs in a few details from the common reading of most Mishnaiot but the text quoted in the Halakhah is the standard Mishnah text.,” etc. Both Rav and Rebbi Simeon ben Laqish say, if they were collected at a trading place108“A place of Saracens.” The problem discussed here is quite different from that discussed in the Babli, 84b, by the same authors. In the Yerushalmi, it is supposed that the acquirer removes the produce from the public place since it is obvious that it would not be his when left in the public place. But if the produce was already in a place belonging to the claimant, according to Rav and R. Simeon ben Laqish “a person’s courtyard acquires for him automatically” (Babli Baba meṣi‘a 10b). For R. Joḥanan, “a person’s courtyard acquires for him only by a conscious act.” Therefore, in a situation where an unlearned person could think that anything in a private domain to which the owner has a claim is automatically his, we may assume that the conscious act of acquisition is missing. This argument assumes that the first part of the Mishnah is everybody’s opinion and the difference between R. Ṭarphon and R. Aqiba refers only to the excess.
In the Babli, the entire first part of the Mishnah is considered R. Ṭarphon’s and everybody agrees that “a person’s courtyard acquires for him automatically”; cf. Note 106.. But if somebody collected it in his house, his house acquired for him. Rebbi Joḥanan said, even if he collected it in his house, his house did not acquire for him. For he thinks that they are his but they are not his. Does from this follow how the owner acquires his produce109The ripe produce is ownerless by biblical decree. Naturally, the owner of the property has the same right to take it as does everybody else. Anybody but the owner acquires simply by taking. How does the owner acquire, that taking from him would be theft? in a Sabbatical year? Rebbi Jeremiah wanted to say, from the moment he put them into his vessel. Rebbi Yose said, even if he put them into his vessel he did not acquire, for he thinks that they are his but they are not his110He can acquire only by a) putting the produce into his vessel and b) declaring that it is his..
הִיא אַרְמָלְתָא תְּפָסָת אַמְהָתָא. אָתָא עוֹבְדָא קוֹמֵי רִבִּי יִצְחָק. אָמַר. תְּפָסָת תְּפָסָת. רִבִּי אִימִּי מַפִּיק מִינָּהּ. דְּהִיא סָבְרָה דִידָּהּ וְלֵית אִינּוּן דִּידָּהּ. כְּהָדָא. אִילֵּין בְּנֵי שַׁמַּי דִּדְמָךְ אֲבוּהוֹן שְׁבַק לָהוֹן אֲבוּהוֹן עֵז. אָתָא מָרִי חוֹבָה וּנְסָתָהּ. אָתָא עוֹבְדָא קוֹמֵי רִבִּי אַבָּהוּ וְאָמַר. דִּידֵּהּ נְסַב. לֹא כֵן תַּנֵּי. יוֹרֵשׁ וּבַעַל חוֹב שֶׁקָּדַם אֶחָד מֵהֶן וְתָפַס [אֵין] מוֹצִיאין מִיָּדוֹ. דַּהֲווֹן סָבְרִין דְּאִינּוּן דִּידְּהוֹן וְלֵית אִינּוּן דִּידְּהוֹן. אָמַר רִבִּי יַעֲקֹב בַּר זַבְדִּי. מוֹדֶה רִבִּי אַבָּהוּ שֶׁאִם מְכָרוּהָ אוֹ מַשְׁכְּנוּהָ אוֹ טִילְטְלוּהָ מִמָּקוֹם לְמָקוֹם וְאַחַר כָּךְ בָּא בַּעַל חוֹב וְתָפַס מוֹצִיאִין מִיָּדוֹ.
That widow took a slave girl111She took her as a servant from her husband’s estate as part payment of her ketubah. The case is also quoted in Qiddušin 1:3 in the discussion whether slaves are acquired under the rules of movables or of real estate.. The case came before Rebbi Isaac who said, what she took, she took. Rebbi Immi took her away, for she thought that she was hers but she was not hers112If the widow could not point to an act of acquisition, the fact that the girl served her when she was a wife and continued to serve her when she was a widow does not make her the widow’s peoperty.. A similar case: The father of the sons of Shammai died and bequeathed a goat to them. The creditor came and took it. The case came before Rebbi Abbahu who said, he took his own property. Did we not state that if either an heir or a creditor came and took, one does [not]113This word was written by the scribe; it was deleted by the first corrector and, therefore, is missing in editio princeps. But the partial quote in Halakhah 8:10 proves that the original text was correct. remove from his hand; for they thought they were theirs but they were not theirs. Rebbi Jacob bar Zabdi said, Rebbi Abbahu agrees that if they114The creditor can take an unsecured part of the debtor’s estate only if the heirs did not act as owners. The moment they acted as owners, and the father had not told them to liquidate his debts, the debtor can make himself paid only through regular foreclosure procedures in court. sold it, or gave it as a pledge, or moved it to another place, if then the creditor came and took it one removes it from his possession.
That widow took a slave girl111She took her as a servant from her husband’s estate as part payment of her ketubah. The case is also quoted in Qiddušin 1:3 in the discussion whether slaves are acquired under the rules of movables or of real estate.. The case came before Rebbi Isaac who said, what she took, she took. Rebbi Immi took her away, for she thought that she was hers but she was not hers112If the widow could not point to an act of acquisition, the fact that the girl served her when she was a wife and continued to serve her when she was a widow does not make her the widow’s peoperty.. A similar case: The father of the sons of Shammai died and bequeathed a goat to them. The creditor came and took it. The case came before Rebbi Abbahu who said, he took his own property. Did we not state that if either an heir or a creditor came and took, one does [not]113This word was written by the scribe; it was deleted by the first corrector and, therefore, is missing in editio princeps. But the partial quote in Halakhah 8:10 proves that the original text was correct. remove from his hand; for they thought they were theirs but they were not theirs. Rebbi Jacob bar Zabdi said, Rebbi Abbahu agrees that if they114The creditor can take an unsecured part of the debtor’s estate only if the heirs did not act as owners. The moment they acted as owners, and the father had not told them to liquidate his debts, the debtor can make himself paid only through regular foreclosure procedures in court. sold it, or gave it as a pledge, or moved it to another place, if then the creditor came and took it one removes it from his possession.
הַגַּע עַצְמָךְ שֶׁפְּטוּרִין מִן הַשְּׁבוּעָה. זוֹ תוֹרָה וְזוֹ אֵינָהּ תּוֹרָה.
Think of it, if they were exempt from swearing102In Sefer Ha-iṭṭur I, 23b (Note 16), followed by Rosh 9:2, the reading is הַגַּע עַצְמָךְ שֶׁפְטָדוּם מִן הַשְּׁבוּעָה “Think of it, if he exempted them from swearing”, i. e., the debtor agreed to a clause in the mortgage contract which exempted the creditor from swearing to his heirs. In the version of the ms., there are additional cases when the creditor is by law exempted from swearing; for example, if the due date is later than the debtor’s death (then the debt certainly was not paid) or if the debtor before his death acknowledged the debt.? One is biblical103Possession by the heirs is automatic by biblical law; all others have to prove their claims in court., the other is not biblical.
Think of it, if they were exempt from swearing102In Sefer Ha-iṭṭur I, 23b (Note 16), followed by Rosh 9:2, the reading is הַגַּע עַצְמָךְ שֶׁפְטָדוּם מִן הַשְּׁבוּעָה “Think of it, if he exempted them from swearing”, i. e., the debtor agreed to a clause in the mortgage contract which exempted the creditor from swearing to his heirs. In the version of the ms., there are additional cases when the creditor is by law exempted from swearing; for example, if the due date is later than the debtor’s death (then the debt certainly was not paid) or if the debtor before his death acknowledged the debt.? One is biblical103Possession by the heirs is automatic by biblical law; all others have to prove their claims in court., the other is not biblical.