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8:3:1

משנה: אֵין קוֹשְׁרִין אֶת הַסּוּס לֹא בִּצְדָדֵי הַקָּרוֹן וְלֹא לְאַחַר הַקָּרוֹן. וְלֹא אֶת הַלוּבְדְּקֵס לַגְּמָלִים. רִבִּי יְהוּדָה אוֹמֵר כָּל הַנּוֹלָדִים מִן הַסּוּס אַף עַל פִּי שֶׁאֲבִיהֶן חֲמוֹר מוּתָּרִין זֶה עִם זֶה. וְכֵן הַנּוֹלָדִים מִן הַחֲמוֹר אַף עַל פִּי שֶׁאֲבִיהֶן סוּס מוּתָּרִין זֶה עִם זֶה אֲבָל הַנּוֹלָדִים מִן הַסּוּס עִם הַנּוֹלָדִים מִן הַחֲמוֹר אֲסוּרִין זֶה עִם זֶה.

MISHNAH: One does not tie a horse to the sides or the back of a cart, or a Libyan donkey to camels. Rebbi Jehudah says, all animals born from a horse are permitted one with the other even if their father was a donkey, all animals born from a donkey are permitted one with the other even if their father was a horse, but those born from a horse are forbidden with those from a donkey.

MISHNAH: One does not tie a horse to the sides or the back of a cart, or a Libyan donkey to camels. Rebbi Jehudah says, all animals born from a horse are permitted one with the other even if their father was a donkey, all animals born from a donkey are permitted one with the other even if their father was a horse, but those born from a horse are forbidden with those from a donkey.

8:3:2

הלכה: אֵין קוֹשְׁרִין אֶת הַסּוּס לֹא לִצְדָדֵי הַקָּרוֹן וְלֹא לְאַחַר הַקָּרוֹן. תַּנֵּי רִבִּי מֵאִיר פּוֹטֵר. אִם הָיָה מְסַיְיעוֹ בֵּין בְּמַעֲלָה בֵין בִּירִידָה הַכֹּל מוֹדִין שֶׁהוּא אָסוּר. אָמַר רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן מִפְּנֵי שֶׁזֶּה נוֹשֵׂא עַצְלוּתוֹ שֶׁל זֶה וְזֶה נוֹשֵׂא עַצְלוּתוֹ שֶׁל זֶה. רַב אָמַר מִפְּנֵי שֶׁנּוֹשְׁאִין אֶת הַחֶבֶל שֶׁבֵּנְתַּיִים.

HALAKHAH: 56In the Venice text, Halakhah 3.: “One does not tie a horse to the sides or the back of a cart.” It is stated57In both Sifry Deut. 231, Tosephta Kilaim 5:4, it is stated that R. Meïr permits it; in his opinion it is not a non-prosecutable misdemeanor but is unquestionably permitted. The reason is stated in Sifry: Since it says, “do not plough with ox and donkey together”, any use that is not together is permitted.: Rebbi Meïr frees from prosecution. If it supported, whether in ascent or in descent, everybody agrees that it is forbidden. Rebbi Joḥanan said, because either one carries the laziness of the other58Since the ox before the cart and the horse tied to the cart do not walk with the same speed, they both influence the movement of the cart and are “together”. In antiquity, horses were used for riding and drawing chariots but never civilian carts.. Rav says, because the rope is carried between them.

HALAKHAH: 56In the Venice text, Halakhah 3.: “One does not tie a horse to the sides or the back of a cart.” It is stated57In both Sifry Deut. 231, Tosephta Kilaim 5:4, it is stated that R. Meïr permits it; in his opinion it is not a non-prosecutable misdemeanor but is unquestionably permitted. The reason is stated in Sifry: Since it says, “do not plough with ox and donkey together”, any use that is not together is permitted.: Rebbi Meïr frees from prosecution. If it supported, whether in ascent or in descent, everybody agrees that it is forbidden. Rebbi Joḥanan said, because either one carries the laziness of the other58Since the ox before the cart and the horse tied to the cart do not walk with the same speed, they both influence the movement of the cart and are “together”. In antiquity, horses were used for riding and drawing chariots but never civilian carts.. Rav says, because the rope is carried between them.

8:3:3

רִבִּי יִרְמְיָה בָּעֵי קְשָׁרָן בִּשְׂעָרָן. מַה נָן קַיָימִין אִם בְּשֶׁקְּשָׁרוֹ בִּשְׂעָרוֹ כָּךְ אָנוּ אוֹמְרִים אָסוּר לְהַרְכִּיב בְּהֵמָה עַל גַּבֵּי חֲבֵירָתָהּ אִם בְּשֶׁקְּשָׁרוֹ הַחֶבֶל בִּשְׂעָרוֹ נֹאמַר מִפְּנֵי שֶׁהֵן נוֹשְׂאִין אֶת הַחֶבֶל שֶׁבֵּינְתַּיִים. רִבִּי יוֹנָה אָמַר אִיתְפַּלְּגוּן רַב וְרִבִּי יוֹחָנָן רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן אָמַר מִפְּנֵי שֶׁזֶּה נוֹשֵׂא עַצְלוּתוֹ שֶׁל זֶה וְזֶה נוֹשֵׂא עַצְלוּתוֹ שֶׁל זֶה. רַב אָמַר מִפְּנֵי שֶׁהֵן נוֹשְׂאִין אֶת הַחֶבֶל שֶׁבֵּנְתַּיִים. מַה נְפַק מִן בֵּינֵיהוֹן קְשָׁרוֹ בִּשְׂעָרוֹ בֵּין עַל דַּעְתֵּיהּ דְּרַב בֵּין עַל דַּעְתֵּיהּ דְּרִבִּי יוֹחָנָן פָּטוּר.

Rebbi Jeremiah asked: If he bound them by their hair59Is this permitted or forbidden? The question is not formulated clearly.? Where do we hold? In case he bound them together by their hair60In this case, they cannot draw anything., should we say that it is forbidden to let one animal ride on another? If he tied them by a rope, we say because they carry the rope between them. Rebbi Jonah said, Rav and Rebbi Joḥanan disagree, Rebbi Joḥanan said, because either one carries the laziness of the other. Rav says, because they carry the rope between them. What is the difference? Both according to Rav as also according to Rebbi Joḥanan, if he bound them by their hair61If no rope is used, the argument of Rav does not apply. Since the animals will not be able to draw if the cart is attached to their hair, the argument of R. Joḥanan does not apply. he is not punishable!

Rebbi Jeremiah asked: If he bound them by their hair59Is this permitted or forbidden? The question is not formulated clearly.? Where do we hold? In case he bound them together by their hair60In this case, they cannot draw anything., should we say that it is forbidden to let one animal ride on another? If he tied them by a rope, we say because they carry the rope between them. Rebbi Jonah said, Rav and Rebbi Joḥanan disagree, Rebbi Joḥanan said, because either one carries the laziness of the other. Rav says, because they carry the rope between them. What is the difference? Both according to Rav as also according to Rebbi Joḥanan, if he bound them by their hair61If no rope is used, the argument of Rav does not apply. Since the animals will not be able to draw if the cart is attached to their hair, the argument of R. Joḥanan does not apply. he is not punishable!

8:3:4

וְלֹא הַלִיבְדְּקֵס. אִית תַּנָּיֵי תַנֵּי ניברקוס. מָאן דְּאָמַר לִיבְדְּקֵס עַל שֵׁם לִיבוּיֵ עַל שֵׁם לוּבִים וְכוּשִׁים בְּמִצְעֲדָיו. מָאן דְּאָמַר ניברקוס אבהטם מַהוּ אבהטם חֲמַר סְלָק. רִבִּי יוֹנָה רַב הוֹשַׁעְיָא בָּעִי גֵּרִים הַבָּאִים מִלִּיבּוֹי מַהוּ לְהַמְתִּין לָהֶן שְׁלֹשָׁה דוֹרוֹת. אָמַר רִבִּי יוֹנָה בּוֹצְרָיָיה מִן מַה דַּאֲנָן חָמֵי הָהֵן פּוּלָא מִצְרָיֵי כַּד רָטִיב אִינוּן צְוָוחִין לֵיהּ לוּבִּי כַּד הוּא נְגִיב אִינוּן צְוָוחִין לֵיהּ פּוּל מִצְרָיֵי. הָדָא אָמְרָה גֵּר מִלּוּבִי צָרִיךְ לְהַמְתִּין שְׁלֹשָׁה דוֹרוֹת. הָדָא אָמְרָה הִיא לוּב הִיא מִצְרַיִם.

63A parallel text is in Šabbat 5:1. A very detailed study of the first six sentences here and in Šabbat was done by J. N. Epstein, מבוא לנוסח המשנה 2, Jerusalem 1964, pp. 97–99, where all variant readings of the names here, in Šabbat, and Gen.rabba are collected and commented on. The vocalization of ליבדקס is from the Kaufmann ms. of the Mishnah.“And not a Libyan64Perhaps the ending דקס refers to Latin equus “horse”, “Libyan animal of the horse family” (E. G.). donkey.” Some Tannaïm state: “Not a nybrqvs65An unexplained word that was unknown even to the rabbis of the Yerushalmi. The Arukh reads ניבדקוס, explainable by a change of liquids, l - n. Perhaps also a composite of equus, “Nubian animal of the horse family” (E. G.)..” He who says libdĕqēs on the name of Lybian and (Dan. 11:43) “Lybians and Nubians in His train.” He who says nybrqvs ‘bhṭs66The parallel in Šabbat reads אמבטס ἀμβάτης, poetic for ἀναβάτης “stallion”. J. N. Epstein points out that because of the nasal pronunciation of מ in Galilean speech, an m can easily be inserted or disappear, so that אמבטס and אב(ה)טס are really one and the same and the text in Kilaim is not necessarily a corruption of the text in Šabbat., What is ‘bḥṭs? A mounting donkey. Rebbi Jonah: Rav Hoshaia67Amora of the third generation, Babylonian student of Rav Jehudah and Rav Huna, who went to Galilee with his brother and became prominent in the academies of the successors of R. Joḥanan. The two brothers earned their livelihood as shoemakers; their main customers were prostitutes who used to swear by the lives of these holy rabbis who never even looked at them. asked: Do proselytes from Libya have to wait three generations68Deut. 23:8–9 prescribes that an Egyptian proselyte and his direct offspring may not marry anyone born to Jewish parents. {The discussion is purely theoretical since one holds that the political upheavals already from the time of Sanherib did displace all peoples originally mentioned in the Pentateuch, Mishnah Yadayim 4:4; cf. Šulḥan ‘Arukh Even Ha’ezer 4:10.}? Rebbi Jonah from Bostra69Amora of the fifth generation, mentioned in connection with R. Mana and Rebbi Ḥuna. said, from what we see that they call a green Egyptian bean Libyan70A bean is لوبيا lubia in Arabic and Farsi; according to N. Brüll, the name is originally Coptic. but a dry one Egyptian, that means a proselyte from Libya has to wait three generations, it means that Libya is identical with Egypt.

63A parallel text is in Šabbat 5:1. A very detailed study of the first six sentences here and in Šabbat was done by J. N. Epstein, מבוא לנוסח המשנה 2, Jerusalem 1964, pp. 97–99, where all variant readings of the names here, in Šabbat, and Gen.rabba are collected and commented on. The vocalization of ליבדקס is from the Kaufmann ms. of the Mishnah.“And not a Libyan64Perhaps the ending דקס refers to Latin equus “horse”, “Libyan animal of the horse family” (E. G.). donkey.” Some Tannaïm state: “Not a nybrqvs65An unexplained word that was unknown even to the rabbis of the Yerushalmi. The Arukh reads ניבדקוס, explainable by a change of liquids, l - n. Perhaps also a composite of equus, “Nubian animal of the horse family” (E. G.)..” He who says libdĕqēs on the name of Lybian and (Dan. 11:43) “Lybians and Nubians in His train.” He who says nybrqvs ‘bhṭs66The parallel in Šabbat reads אמבטס ἀμβάτης, poetic for ἀναβάτης “stallion”. J. N. Epstein points out that because of the nasal pronunciation of מ in Galilean speech, an m can easily be inserted or disappear, so that אמבטס and אב(ה)טס are really one and the same and the text in Kilaim is not necessarily a corruption of the text in Šabbat., What is ‘bḥṭs? A mounting donkey. Rebbi Jonah: Rav Hoshaia67Amora of the third generation, Babylonian student of Rav Jehudah and Rav Huna, who went to Galilee with his brother and became prominent in the academies of the successors of R. Joḥanan. The two brothers earned their livelihood as shoemakers; their main customers were prostitutes who used to swear by the lives of these holy rabbis who never even looked at them. asked: Do proselytes from Libya have to wait three generations68Deut. 23:8–9 prescribes that an Egyptian proselyte and his direct offspring may not marry anyone born to Jewish parents. {The discussion is purely theoretical since one holds that the political upheavals already from the time of Sanherib did displace all peoples originally mentioned in the Pentateuch, Mishnah Yadayim 4:4; cf. Šulḥan ‘Arukh Even Ha’ezer 4:10.}? Rebbi Jonah from Bostra69Amora of the fifth generation, mentioned in connection with R. Mana and Rebbi Ḥuna. said, from what we see that they call a green Egyptian bean Libyan70A bean is لوبيا lubia in Arabic and Farsi; according to N. Brüll, the name is originally Coptic. but a dry one Egyptian, that means a proselyte from Libya has to wait three generations, it means that Libya is identical with Egypt.

8:3:5

רִבִּי יִצְחָק בַּר נַחְמָן בְּשֵׁם רִבִּי הוֹשַׁעְיָה הֲלָכָה כְדִבְרֵי הַתַּלְמִיד. דִּבְרֵי חֲכָמַים כָּל מִין פִּרְדּוֹת אֶחָד.

Rebbi Isaac bar Naḥman in the name of Rebbi Hoshaiah: Practice follows the student71The “student” here is Rebbi Jehudah. It is implied that the opinion of the “Sages”, that all kinds of mules are the same and may be mated with one another, is the opinion of R. Jehudah’s teacher R. Aqiba. The ruling is also reported in the Babli (Ketubot111b). In the generally accepted opinion of Maimonides, based on the Babli but which can be supported by the position of the “Sages” here, R. Jehudah is restrictive: Only mules of the same kind of mother can be mated, not different kinds of mules nor mules with the pure species of their mother (Kilaim 9:6–7). R. Jehudah holds that among animals the father counts; the Sages take the opposite position.. The words of the Sages are that all kinds of mules are the same.

Rebbi Isaac bar Naḥman in the name of Rebbi Hoshaiah: Practice follows the student71The “student” here is Rebbi Jehudah. It is implied that the opinion of the “Sages”, that all kinds of mules are the same and may be mated with one another, is the opinion of R. Jehudah’s teacher R. Aqiba. The ruling is also reported in the Babli (Ketubot111b). In the generally accepted opinion of Maimonides, based on the Babli but which can be supported by the position of the “Sages” here, R. Jehudah is restrictive: Only mules of the same kind of mother can be mated, not different kinds of mules nor mules with the pure species of their mother (Kilaim 9:6–7). R. Jehudah holds that among animals the father counts; the Sages take the opposite position.. The words of the Sages are that all kinds of mules are the same.

8:3:6

וְאֵילוּ הֵן הַסִּימָנִין. אָמַר רִבִּי יוֹנָה כָּל שֶׁאָזְנָיו קְטָנוֹת אִמּוֹ סוּסָה וְאָבִיו חֲמוֹר. גְּדוֹלוֹת אִמּוֹ חֲמוֹרָה וְאָבִיו סוּס. רִבִּי מָנָא מְפַקֵּד לְאִילֵּין דְּרִבִּי יוּדָן נְשִׂיאָה אִין בְּעִיתוּן מִיזְבּוֹן מוּלִווֹן תּוּן זְבַנִּין לֹו אָזְנֵיהוֹן דְּקִיקִין שֶׁאִמּוֹ סוּסָה וְאָבִיו חֲמוֹר.

These72An almost identical text is in Berakhot 8:6, Notes 120 ff. Since practice follows R. Jehudah, one has to have a practical criterion of how to distinguish between the two kinds of mule that cannot be mated. are its signs: Rebbi Jonah says, if it has small ears, its mother is a horse and its father a donkey; if it has large ears its mother is a donkey and its father a horse. Rebbi Mana ordered those of the patriarch’s estate: If you want to buy a mule, you should buy one with small ears whose mother is a horse and whose father is a donkey.

These72An almost identical text is in Berakhot 8:6, Notes 120 ff. Since practice follows R. Jehudah, one has to have a practical criterion of how to distinguish between the two kinds of mule that cannot be mated. are its signs: Rebbi Jonah says, if it has small ears, its mother is a horse and its father a donkey; if it has large ears its mother is a donkey and its father a horse. Rebbi Mana ordered those of the patriarch’s estate: If you want to buy a mule, you should buy one with small ears whose mother is a horse and whose father is a donkey.

8:3:7

הַלּוֹבֶן מִן הָאִישׁ שֶׁמִּמֶּנּוּ מוֹחַ וַעֲצָמוֹת וְהַגִּידִים. וְהַאוֹדֶם מִן הָאִשָּׁה שֶׁמִּמֶּנָּה הָעוֹר וְהַבָּשָׂר וְהַדָּם. וְהָרוּחַ וְהַנֶּפֶשׁ וְהַנְּשָׁמָה מִשֶּׁל הַקָּדוֹשׁ בָּרוּךְ הוּא. וּשְׁלָשְׁתָּן שׁוּתָפִין בּוֹ.

The white is from the male, from him are brain, bones, and sinews. The red is from the female, from her are skin, flesh, and blood. But breath, life force, and soul are from the Holy One, may He be praised; all three are partners in him73“Him” is the child. A much more detailed explanation of the talmudic theory of heredity is in Babli Niddah 31a. Since the text here deals with animals, the paragraph is somewhat out of place since animals are said not to have נשמה “soul” but only נפש “the animal force of life.”.

The white is from the male, from him are brain, bones, and sinews. The red is from the female, from her are skin, flesh, and blood. But breath, life force, and soul are from the Holy One, may He be praised; all three are partners in him73“Him” is the child. A much more detailed explanation of the talmudic theory of heredity is in Babli Niddah 31a. Since the text here deals with animals, the paragraph is somewhat out of place since animals are said not to have נשמה “soul” but only נפש “the animal force of life.”.

8:3:8

רִבִּי בָּא רַב יְהוּדָה בְשֵׁם רַב מוֹדִים חֲכָמִים לְרִבִּי יְהוּדָה בְּסוּס בֶּן סוּס בֶּן חֲמוֹר עִם חֲמוֹר בֶּן חֲמוֹר בֶּן סוּס. רִבִּי חַגַּיי רִבִּי זְעִירָא בְשֵׁם רִבִּי אִיסִּת בְּנֵי עִזִּים בְּנֵי רְחֵלִים אֲסוּרִין זֶה עִם זֶה. דְּלֹא כֵן מָה אֲנָן אָמְרִין עֵז בֶּן עֵז בֶּן רָחֵל עִם רָחֵל בֶּן רָחֵל בֶּן עֵז.

Rebbi Abba, Rav Jehudah in the name of Rav: The Sages agree with Rebbi Jehudah in the case of a horse from a horse from a donkey with a donkey from a donkey from a horse75The Sages hold that any two animals half horse and half donkey can be mated, but not an animal ⅔ horse with an animal ⅔ donkey.. Rebbi Ḥaggai, Rebbi Zeïra in the name of Rebbi Issy76The otherwise unknown איסת must be איסי (Issy, Assi, Yasa), one of the known teachers of R. Zeïra.: descendants of she-goats and ewes are forbidden one with the other. If it were not so, why do we say “a goat from a goat from a ewe with a ewe from a ewe from a goat.”

Rebbi Abba, Rav Jehudah in the name of Rav: The Sages agree with Rebbi Jehudah in the case of a horse from a horse from a donkey with a donkey from a donkey from a horse75The Sages hold that any two animals half horse and half donkey can be mated, but not an animal ⅔ horse with an animal ⅔ donkey.. Rebbi Ḥaggai, Rebbi Zeïra in the name of Rebbi Issy76The otherwise unknown איסת must be איסי (Issy, Assi, Yasa), one of the known teachers of R. Zeïra.: descendants of she-goats and ewes are forbidden one with the other. If it were not so, why do we say “a goat from a goat from a ewe with a ewe from a ewe from a goat.”

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  • Hebrew: The Jerusalem Talmud, edition by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015 · License: CC-BY
  • English: The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015 · License: CC-BY

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