Talmud Yerushalmi
Yerushalmi Maaser Sheni 4:1 ירושלמי מעשר שני ד׳:א׳
Part of: Chapter 4
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משנה: הַמּוֹלִיךְ פֵּירוֹת מַעֲשֵׂר שֵׁינִי מִמְּקוֹם הַיּוֹקֶר לִמְקוֹם הַזּוֹל אוֹ מִמְקוֹם הַזּוֹל לִמְקוֹם הַיּוֹקֶר פּוֹדֵיהוּ כְּשַׁעַר מְקוֹמוֹ. הַמֵּבִיא פֵירוֹת מִן הַגּוֹרֶן לָעִיר כַּדֵּי יַיִן מִן הַגַּת לָעִיר הַשְּׁבָח לַשֵּׁנִי וִיצִיאָה מִבֵּיתוֹ. פּוֹדִין מַעֲשֵׂר שֵׁינִי כְּשַׁעַר הַזּוֹל כְּמוֹ שֶׁהַחֶנְוָנִי לוֹקֵחַ לא כְּמוֹת שֶׁהוּא מוֹכֵר כְּמוֹת שֶׁהַשּׁוּלְחָנִי פוֹרֵט לֹא כְּמוֹת שֶׁהוּא מְצָרֵף. אֵין פּוֹדִין מַעֲשֵׂר שֵׁינִי אַכְסְְרָה אֶת שֶׁדָּמָיו יְדוּעִין נִפְדֶּה עַל פִּי אֶחָד וְאֵת שֶׁאֵין דָּמָיו יְדוּעִין נִפְדֶּה עַל פִּי שְׁלֹשָׁה. כְּגוֹן הַיַּיִן שֶׁקִּיסֵּס וּפֵירוֹת שֶׁהִרְקִיבוּ וּמָעוֹת שֶׁהֶחֱלִיאוּ.
MISHNAH: If somebody transports Second Tithe produce from a place of high prices to one of low prices1. For some reason, Maimonides translates “from a clean to a dirty place”, implying that dirty places have cheap prices, clean places high prices. or vice versa, he redeems at the level of his place2At the place where the redemption is actually taking place, outside Jerusalem.. If he brings produce from the threshing floor to town or from the wine-press to town, the excess value3The difference between produce, etc., in town and out in the fields is added to Second Tithe money but the cost of transportation from the field to town is on him and cannot be deducted from tithe money. belongs to the Second but the expense is on him.
One redeems Second Tithe following the low rate at which the grocer buys39At wholesale., not at which he sells; the one at which the banker gives small coins, not at which he assembles large coins40The banker engaged in exchange operations makes money on the spread between buying and selling rates. For redeeming tithe one values bronze coins as if one were a banker selling copper coins against silver.. One does not redeem Second Tithe en bloc41Cf. Demay Chapter 2, Note 198.; if the price is known it is redeemed by the information of one person, if the price is not known by the information of three, as e. g., wine getting sour, fruit rotting, or coins rusting.
MISHNAH: If somebody transports Second Tithe produce from a place of high prices to one of low prices1. For some reason, Maimonides translates “from a clean to a dirty place”, implying that dirty places have cheap prices, clean places high prices. or vice versa, he redeems at the level of his place2At the place where the redemption is actually taking place, outside Jerusalem.. If he brings produce from the threshing floor to town or from the wine-press to town, the excess value3The difference between produce, etc., in town and out in the fields is added to Second Tithe money but the cost of transportation from the field to town is on him and cannot be deducted from tithe money. belongs to the Second but the expense is on him.
One redeems Second Tithe following the low rate at which the grocer buys39At wholesale., not at which he sells; the one at which the banker gives small coins, not at which he assembles large coins40The banker engaged in exchange operations makes money on the spread between buying and selling rates. For redeeming tithe one values bronze coins as if one were a banker selling copper coins against silver.. One does not redeem Second Tithe en bloc41Cf. Demay Chapter 2, Note 198.; if the price is known it is redeemed by the information of one person, if the price is not known by the information of three, as e. g., wine getting sour, fruit rotting, or coins rusting.
הלכה: הַמּוֹלִיךְ פֵּירוֹת מַעֲשֵׂר שֵׁינִי כו׳. אָמַר רִבִּי יוֹנָה לֹא אָמְרוּ אֶלָּא הַמּוֹלִיךְ הָא כַתְּחִילָּה אָסוּר. וּבְפֵירוֹת מַעֲשֵׂר שֵׁינִי אֲבָל בְּפֵירוֹת שֶׁהֵן טְבוּלִין לְמַעֲשֵׂר שֵׁינִי אַפִילוּ לְכַתְּחִילָּה מוּתָּר. כְּהָדָא רִבִּי הֲוָה לֵיהּ פֵּירִין הָכָא וּפֵירִין בְּבוֹתְנִיִין וַהֲוָה קְבַע מַעְשְׂרָא דְהָכָא תַּמָּן וּמְפָרֵק לוֹן בְּשַׁעֲרָה דְתַמָּן.
HALAKHAH: “If somebody transports Second Tithe produce,” etc. Rebbi Mana said, they said only “if somebody transports”; therefore originally it is forbidden4. If people were encouraged to transport heave from place to place (except on the way to Jerusalem), the Mishnah would have been formulated: מוליכין פירות “One transports produce”. The formulation: If somebody does it, then … is only used for actions which are disapproved of but which are not actually forbidden.. This is about Second Tithe produce, but for produce which is ṭevel for Second Tithe5Produce for which heave and First Tithe had already been given. it is originally permitted, following this: Rebbi had produce here and in Batanaia6Cf. Ma‘serot 4, Note 82.; he fixed the tithes of here there and redeemed them according to the going price there.
HALAKHAH: “If somebody transports Second Tithe produce,” etc. Rebbi Mana said, they said only “if somebody transports”; therefore originally it is forbidden4. If people were encouraged to transport heave from place to place (except on the way to Jerusalem), the Mishnah would have been formulated: מוליכין פירות “One transports produce”. The formulation: If somebody does it, then … is only used for actions which are disapproved of but which are not actually forbidden.. This is about Second Tithe produce, but for produce which is ṭevel for Second Tithe5Produce for which heave and First Tithe had already been given. it is originally permitted, following this: Rebbi had produce here and in Batanaia6Cf. Ma‘serot 4, Note 82.; he fixed the tithes of here there and redeemed them according to the going price there.
תַּנֵּי בֵּין בְּיוֹקֶר וְהוּזְּלוּ בֵּין בְּזוֹל וְהוּקְּרוּ. נִיחָא בְּיוֹקֶר וְהוּזְּלוּ. בְּזוֹל וְהוֹקִירוּ. שַׁנְיָיא הִיא שֶׁהוּא יָכוֹל לְהַעֲרִים עָלָיו וּלְפוֹטְרוֹ מִן הַחוֹמֶשׁ.
It was stated: Whether it was expensive and became cheap or cheap and became more expensive7It seems that the baraita permits redeeming at the lowest rate between the time Second Tithe was given and the time it was redeemed.. We understand “expensive and became cheap8Since in this case, the price of redemption is the actual price at the time of redemption.”. “Cheap and became more expensive”? There is a difference because he could use a trick and free it from the fifth9As explained in Mishnah 4, if a third party redeems the tithe, he does not have to add a fifth..
It was stated: Whether it was expensive and became cheap or cheap and became more expensive7It seems that the baraita permits redeeming at the lowest rate between the time Second Tithe was given and the time it was redeemed.. We understand “expensive and became cheap8Since in this case, the price of redemption is the actual price at the time of redemption.”. “Cheap and became more expensive”? There is a difference because he could use a trick and free it from the fifth9As explained in Mishnah 4, if a third party redeems the tithe, he does not have to add a fifth..
תַּנֵּי אַבָּא (בַּר) חִילְפַיי בַּר קִרְיָיא אָמַר בַּמֶּה דְבָרִים אֲמוּרִים בְּוַדַּאי אֲבָל בִּדְמַאי בֵּין בְּיוֹקֶר וְהוּזְּלוּ בֵּין בְּזוֹל וְהוּקְּרוּ מוֹכְרוֹ בְזוֹל. לָמָּה מִשּׁוּם שֶׁנִּרְאֶה לְהִימָּכֵר בְּזוֹל אוֹ מִשּׁוּם שֶׁאֵינוֹ יָכוֹל לְהַחֲזִירוֹ לִמְקוֹמוֹ. מַה נְפַק מִבֵּינֵיהוֹן. הֲרֵי הוֹקִירוּ מְקוֹמוֹ. אִין תֵּימַר מִשּׁוּם שֶׁאֵינוֹ יָכוֹל לְהַחֲזִירוֹ לִמְקוֹמוֹ הֲרֵי הוֹקִירוּ. אִין תֵּימַר מִשּׁוּם שֶׁנִּרְאֶה לְהִימָּכֵר בְּזוֹל אֲפִילוּ כֵן נִרְאֶה לְהִימָּכֵר בְּזוֹל. כְּהָדָא רִבִּי חִיָיה בַּר וָוא הֲוָה בְּרוֹמֵי וְחָמְתִין מְפָרְקִין אִילֵּין נִיקְלֶוְסִיָּא דְּהָכָא תַּמָּן כְּשַׁעֲרָה דְהָכָא. אָמַר מָאן דְהוֹרֵי לוֹן חִילְפַיי בַּר קִירְוָיָא אוֹרֵי לוֹן.
It was stated11In the Tosephta, 3:1, R. Joshua ben Qorḥa states the opposite rule: Demay follows the rules of the Mishnah, but certain produce always is redeemed by the higher tariff.: “Abba Ḥilfai the small-town man12In the Babli, Baba Batra 123a, there appears a אבא חליפא קרויא, Abba Ḥalifa Small-Towner, who, however, was a student of R. Ḥiyya bar Abba and cannot be identical with the person mentioned here. said, when has this been said? For certain [produce], but for demay whether it was expensive and became cheap or was cheap and became expensive, he may sell it cheaply.” Why? Is it because it always may be sold cheaply or because it may not be returned to its place13So that it always could be redeemed at the cheaper place.? What is the difference? If later it rose in price again at its place14At the moment of redemption there is no cheap place.. If you say, because it may not be returned to its place, did it not increase in value? If you say, because it always may be sold cheaply also in this case it can be sold cheaply. Like this: Rebbi Ḥiyya bar Abba was in Rome and he saw them redeem there Nicolaos dates15Cf. Berakhot 6, Note 162; Demay 2, Notes 15,16. from here at the price here16At the much lower rate of the Land of Israel.. He said, who taught them? Ḥilfai the small-town man taught them.
It was stated11In the Tosephta, 3:1, R. Joshua ben Qorḥa states the opposite rule: Demay follows the rules of the Mishnah, but certain produce always is redeemed by the higher tariff.: “Abba Ḥilfai the small-town man12In the Babli, Baba Batra 123a, there appears a אבא חליפא קרויא, Abba Ḥalifa Small-Towner, who, however, was a student of R. Ḥiyya bar Abba and cannot be identical with the person mentioned here. said, when has this been said? For certain [produce], but for demay whether it was expensive and became cheap or was cheap and became expensive, he may sell it cheaply.” Why? Is it because it always may be sold cheaply or because it may not be returned to its place13So that it always could be redeemed at the cheaper place.? What is the difference? If later it rose in price again at its place14At the moment of redemption there is no cheap place.. If you say, because it may not be returned to its place, did it not increase in value? If you say, because it always may be sold cheaply also in this case it can be sold cheaply. Like this: Rebbi Ḥiyya bar Abba was in Rome and he saw them redeem there Nicolaos dates15Cf. Berakhot 6, Note 162; Demay 2, Notes 15,16. from here at the price here16At the much lower rate of the Land of Israel.. He said, who taught them? Ḥilfai the small-town man taught them.
תַּנֵּי מִשְׂתַּכֵּר הוּא אָדָם עַד שֶׁקֶל. מִשְֹתַּכֵּר הוּא אָדָם עַד רְבִיעִית. הֵיךְ עֲבִדָא דִּינָרָא הָכָא בִתְרֵין אֲלָפִין וּבְאַרְבְּאֵל בִּתְרֵין אֲלָפִין וְלֶקָּן וְהוּא בָּעֵי מִיתֵּן חֲמִשִּׁים רִיבּוֹא וּמֵיסוּק. דִיהַב לֵיהּ הָכָא בִּתְרֵין אֲלָפִין וּבְאַרְבֵּלִין בִּתְרֵין וְלַקָּן.
It was stated: A person18A money changer or money dealer. This paragraph should belong to Baba Meẓi‘a. may earn up to a šeqel192 (silver) denars per gold denar? or aureus? The rate of 2000 denars to one aureus points to the early fourth Century., a person may earn up to a quarter20A quarter of a tetradrachma, one denar. Probably the larger amount is for retail transactions, the smaller for wholesale.. How is this done21Without transgressing the interest prohibitions.? A denar here is worth 2000, but in Arbel 2000 and a laqan22A word of uncertain origin and meaning. Following M. Zuckermann, Talmudische Münzen und Gewichte, Breslau 1862, most Talmudic Dictionaries derive this word from Greek λευκόν “a white [thing]”, supposed to mean “a small silver coin”. (Jastrow, deriving the word from the root לקי “to hit, smite”, takes it as translation of Greek λεπτόν, “a small copper coin.”)
However, there never was a Greek coin λευκόν (whose transliteration moreover would have to be לבקן or לוקן)- The efforts of H. J. Sheftel (ערך מלין לשעורי תורה Berdičev 1907, p. 39b/c) and D. Sperber (cf. Note 24) to determine the monetary value of the supposed coin are inconclusive.
The apparent meaning of לקן here and in Baba Meẓi‘a 4:1, fol. 9c, “a small indeterminate amount of money” rather suggests a connection with Arabic لَقَن “small dish, cup” which is used in the composite عِوَض لقن “small thing given in exchange”, or “trifle given as agio”.
{Perhaps cf. Greek λεκάνη, ἡ and λέκος, -εως, τό, “dish, pot, pan” from which a late diminutive λεκίσκιον, τό, “small measure or weight” (E. G.)}.. He wants to give 50 myriads23500’000 denar = 250 aurei. and brings it up, here by 2000 and in Arbel by 2[000] and laqan24Cf. also D. Sperber, Roman Palestine 200–400, Money and Prices, Ramat-Gan 1974, Chap. 14..
It was stated: A person18A money changer or money dealer. This paragraph should belong to Baba Meẓi‘a. may earn up to a šeqel192 (silver) denars per gold denar? or aureus? The rate of 2000 denars to one aureus points to the early fourth Century., a person may earn up to a quarter20A quarter of a tetradrachma, one denar. Probably the larger amount is for retail transactions, the smaller for wholesale.. How is this done21Without transgressing the interest prohibitions.? A denar here is worth 2000, but in Arbel 2000 and a laqan22A word of uncertain origin and meaning. Following M. Zuckermann, Talmudische Münzen und Gewichte, Breslau 1862, most Talmudic Dictionaries derive this word from Greek λευκόν “a white [thing]”, supposed to mean “a small silver coin”. (Jastrow, deriving the word from the root לקי “to hit, smite”, takes it as translation of Greek λεπτόν, “a small copper coin.”)
However, there never was a Greek coin λευκόν (whose transliteration moreover would have to be לבקן or לוקן)- The efforts of H. J. Sheftel (ערך מלין לשעורי תורה Berdičev 1907, p. 39b/c) and D. Sperber (cf. Note 24) to determine the monetary value of the supposed coin are inconclusive.
The apparent meaning of לקן here and in Baba Meẓi‘a 4:1, fol. 9c, “a small indeterminate amount of money” rather suggests a connection with Arabic لَقَن “small dish, cup” which is used in the composite عِوَض لقن “small thing given in exchange”, or “trifle given as agio”.
{Perhaps cf. Greek λεκάνη, ἡ and λέκος, -εως, τό, “dish, pot, pan” from which a late diminutive λεκίσκιον, τό, “small measure or weight” (E. G.)}.. He wants to give 50 myriads23500’000 denar = 250 aurei. and brings it up, here by 2000 and in Arbel by 2[000] and laqan24Cf. also D. Sperber, Roman Palestine 200–400, Money and Prices, Ramat-Gan 1974, Chap. 14..
תַּנֵּי אֵין פּוֹדִין מַעֲשֵׂר שֵׁינִי לְשֵׁם שֵׁינִי אֶלָּא לְשֵׁם חוּלִין. רִבִּי שָָׁאוּל בָּעֵי הַגַּע עַצְמָךְ שֶׁהָיוּ הַכֹּל יוֹדְעִין בוֹ שֶׁהוּא שֵׁינִי. אֲפִילוּ כֵן. תַּנֵּי אֵין פּוֹדִין מַעֲשֵׂר שֵׁינִי אֶלָּא בְּמִין עַל מִינוֹ. דִּלֹא כֵן מַה נָן אָמְרִין פּוֹדִין מִן הַחִיטִּין עַל הַשְּׂעוֹרִין וּמִן הַשְּׂעוֹרִין עַל הַחִטִּין לָכֵן צְרִיכָה. אֲפִילוּ מִן הָאַגִּרוּ עַל הַשַּׁמְתִּית. וּמִן הַשַּׁמְתִּית עַל הָאַגִּרוּ.
It was stated: One does not redeem Second Tithe as Second Tithe but as profane25Unless the person who redeems states that the produce shall be profane and the holiness of tithe transferred to the coins, there is no transfer.. Rebbi Saul asked: Think of it, if everybody knew that it was Second26What else could he do with it? Even so, there is no transfer without declaration.? Even so. It was stated: One redeems Second Tithe only from its own kind27Tithes do not have to be given from earmarked produce; the farmer may give tithe from one part of his harvest for all other produce of the same harvest but at other places.. Otherwise, what would we say? One might redeem wheat for barley, barley for wheat; even fine wheat for coarse wheat28Cf. Peah 2, Notes 85,86., coarse wheat for fine wheat.
It was stated: One does not redeem Second Tithe as Second Tithe but as profane25Unless the person who redeems states that the produce shall be profane and the holiness of tithe transferred to the coins, there is no transfer.. Rebbi Saul asked: Think of it, if everybody knew that it was Second26What else could he do with it? Even so, there is no transfer without declaration.? Even so. It was stated: One redeems Second Tithe only from its own kind27Tithes do not have to be given from earmarked produce; the farmer may give tithe from one part of his harvest for all other produce of the same harvest but at other places.. Otherwise, what would we say? One might redeem wheat for barley, barley for wheat; even fine wheat for coarse wheat28Cf. Peah 2, Notes 85,86., coarse wheat for fine wheat.
אָמַר רִבִּי חֲנַנְיָה רִבִּי הָיָה לוֹקֵחַ קִישׁוּאִין בְּכוֹרוֹת לַמַּלְכוּת וְקוֹבֵעַ מַעֲשֵׂר שֵׁינִי שֶׁלָּהֶן עַל כָּל עוֹקֶץ וְעוֹקֶץ. רָאָה אוֹתָן כִּילּוּ הֵן חֲתוּכוֹת. רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן בָּעֵי שְׁלֵימוֹת וְאַתְּ אָמַרְתָּ חֲתִיכוֹת. אָמַר רִבִּי יוֹנָה וְיֵאוּת אִילּוּ שְׁנַיִם שֶׁהָיוּ שׁוּתָפִין בְּקִישׁוּת אַחַת לְזֶה חֶלֶק אֶחָד וְלָזֶה שְׁנֵי חֲלָקִים. שֶׁמָּא הוּא אוֹמֵר לוֹ טוֹל חֶלְקָךְ וַאֲנִי חֶלְקִי. אֶלָּא עַל יְדֵי זֶה וְעַל יְדֵי זֶה נִמְכַּר בְּיוֹקֶר. וְהָכָא עַל יְדֵי זֶה וְעַל יְדֵי זֶה נִמְכַּר בְּיוֹקֶר. כְּהָדָא רִבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בַּר רִבִּי הֲוָה מַפְקִיד עַל אִילֵּין דְּרוֹמַיָּא דַּהֲווֹן מְזַלְזְלִין בָּהּ. נַסְתּוֹן בַּר קַפָּרא וְקִרְטְטָא קוֹמוֹי אָמַר לֵיהּ טָב הוּא כְּלוּם. עַד כְּדוֹן מִילָּה מְקַרְטְטָה וְלָא טָבָא מִילָּה מְקַרְטְטָה וְטָבָה.
Rebbi Ḥanania said: Rebbi took early ripe green melons30Cf. Kilaim 1:2, Note 38. for the government31To invite (Augustus or Caesar) Antoninus, cf. Kilaim 9:4, Note 79. and fixed their Second Tithe in each peduncle32He then redeemed them together.. He considered them as if cut33The peduncle with some fruit flesh cut off from the melon.. Rebbi Joḥanan asked, they were whole and you say cut? Rebbi Jonah said, that is correct! If two people were partners in a green melon, one having one part and the other two, can he say, take your part and I shall take mine? But for the two together it is sold more dearly; here also together it is sold34I. e., redeemed. more dearly. Like this: Rebbi Simeon ben Rebbi commanded those Southerners who were disregarding it35They disregarded Second Tithe (which without a Temple cannot be used for anything) and which, at least for produce other than grain, wine, and olive oil, was rabbinic even in the Times of the Temple.. Bar Qappara lifted them and before him cut them into little pieces. He said to him, is that worth anything36If it has no monetary value, it is not subject to tithes.? So far, some things are cut into little pieces and they are no good, other things are cut into little pieces and are good37The argument of Rebbi against Bar Qappara..
Rebbi Ḥanania said: Rebbi took early ripe green melons30Cf. Kilaim 1:2, Note 38. for the government31To invite (Augustus or Caesar) Antoninus, cf. Kilaim 9:4, Note 79. and fixed their Second Tithe in each peduncle32He then redeemed them together.. He considered them as if cut33The peduncle with some fruit flesh cut off from the melon.. Rebbi Joḥanan asked, they were whole and you say cut? Rebbi Jonah said, that is correct! If two people were partners in a green melon, one having one part and the other two, can he say, take your part and I shall take mine? But for the two together it is sold more dearly; here also together it is sold34I. e., redeemed. more dearly. Like this: Rebbi Simeon ben Rebbi commanded those Southerners who were disregarding it35They disregarded Second Tithe (which without a Temple cannot be used for anything) and which, at least for produce other than grain, wine, and olive oil, was rabbinic even in the Times of the Temple.. Bar Qappara lifted them and before him cut them into little pieces. He said to him, is that worth anything36If it has no monetary value, it is not subject to tithes.? So far, some things are cut into little pieces and they are no good, other things are cut into little pieces and are good37The argument of Rebbi against Bar Qappara..
רִבִּי יְהוֹשֻׁעַ בֶּן לֵוִי אָמַר אֵין פּוֹדִין מַעֲשֵׂר שֵׁינִי אֶלָּא עַד שְׁלֹשִׁים וְשִׁשָּׁה בְּשָׁווֹי. וְאָמַר רִבִּי חִזְקִיָּה זֶה שֶׁהוּא מְחַלֵּל לֹא יְהֵא מְחַלֵּל עַל חֲצִי פְרוּטָה שֶׁלֹּא יְהֵא כִמְחַלֵּל עִל אַסֵּימוֹן. אֶלָּא עַד שָׁוֶה פְרוּטָה.
Rebbi Joshua ben Levi said, one redeems Second Tithe only up to thirty six times [the coin’s] worth. And Rebbi Ḥizqiah said, one who exchanges should not exchange for half a peruṭah so he should not be like one who exchanges for a blank38The peruṭa was an Hasmonean copper coin; in Talmudic times it was purely a unit of computation. According to Yerushalmi Qiddušin 1:1 (fol. 58d), one as(obolus) was counted as 6 peruṭot. The statement then means that for redemption purposes, a denar can be represented by a peruṭah.
Half a peruṭah never was an official coin; for blanks cf. Chapter 1, Note 45.; it must be worth a peruṭah.
Rebbi Joshua ben Levi said, one redeems Second Tithe only up to thirty six times [the coin’s] worth. And Rebbi Ḥizqiah said, one who exchanges should not exchange for half a peruṭah so he should not be like one who exchanges for a blank38The peruṭa was an Hasmonean copper coin; in Talmudic times it was purely a unit of computation. According to Yerushalmi Qiddušin 1:1 (fol. 58d), one as(obolus) was counted as 6 peruṭot. The statement then means that for redemption purposes, a denar can be represented by a peruṭah.
Half a peruṭah never was an official coin; for blanks cf. Chapter 1, Note 45.; it must be worth a peruṭah.
אָמַר רִבִּי אִימִּי כָּמָה עָלַל קוֹמֵי רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן וְרִבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן לָקִישׁ וְאִינּוּן אָמְרֵי פּוּק וְאִישְׁלַם כְּהָדֵין תַּנָּיָיה פּוֹדִין מַעֲשֵׂר שֵׁינִי בְּשַׁעַר הַזּוֹל וְלֹא בְשַׁעַר הַיּוֹקֶר כְּמוֹת שֶׁחֶנְוָנִי לוֹקֵחַ לא כְּמוֹת שֶׁהוּא מוֹכֵר. כְּמוֹת שֶׁהַשּׁוּלְחָנִי פוֹרֵט לֹא כְּמוֹת שֶׁהוּא מְצָרֵף. עַד כְּדוֹן דָּבָר מְרוּבָּה הָיָה דָבָר מְמוּעָט. אֲפִילוּ כֵן כְּמוֹת שֶׁהַחֶנְוָונִי לוֹקֵחַ לא כְּמוֹת שֶׁהוּא מוֹכֵר. כְּמוֹת שֶׁהַשּׁוּלְחָנִי פוֹרֵט לֹא כְּמוֹת שֶׁהוּא מְצָרֵף.
Rebbi Immi said, Kama came before Rebbi Joḥanan and Rebbi Simeon ben Laqish. They said to him, go and pay according to those Tannaїm: “One redeems Second Tithe when it is cheap, not when it is expensive; at the rate at which the grocer buys, not at which he sells; the one at which the banker gives small coins, not at which he assembles large coins.” So far for large quantities, what about small ones? Even so, at the rate at which the grocer buys, not at which he sells; the one at which the banker gives small coins, not at which he assembles large coins.
Rebbi Immi said, Kama came before Rebbi Joḥanan and Rebbi Simeon ben Laqish. They said to him, go and pay according to those Tannaїm: “One redeems Second Tithe when it is cheap, not when it is expensive; at the rate at which the grocer buys, not at which he sells; the one at which the banker gives small coins, not at which he assembles large coins.” So far for large quantities, what about small ones? Even so, at the rate at which the grocer buys, not at which he sells; the one at which the banker gives small coins, not at which he assembles large coins.
רִבִּי נַחְמָן בַּר יַעְַקֹב מְחַוֵּי חוֹתֶל לְנַגָּרָא וּמְפָרֵק עַל פּוֹמֵיהּ. רִבִּי יַנַּאי מְחַוֵּי רוֹבַע חִטִּין לְחִיטּוֹנַיָּא וּמְפָרֵק עַל פּוֹמֵיהּ. רִבִּי סִימוֹן חֲוֵוי פֵירִין לְרִבִּי חִלְקִיָּה. אָמַר לֵיהּ. בְּשָׁוֵויהֶן. אָמַר לֵיהּ. כֵּן. אָמַר רִבִּי חִלְקִיָּה בְשֵׁם רִבִּי סִימוֹן. אֵין פּוֹדִין מַעֲשֵׂר שֵׁינִי עַל פִּי הַשּׁוֹטִין. רִבִּי פִּינְחָס חֲוֵוי פֵירִין לִגְרוֹסָה. אָמַר לֵיהּ. בְּשָׁוֵייהֶן. אָמַר לֵיהּ. הָכֵין אָמַר רִבִּי חִלְקִיָּה בְשֵׁם רִבִּי סִימוֹן אֵין פּוֹדִין עַל פִּי הַשּׁוֹטִין. אָמַר רִבִּי שַׁמַּי כַּמָּה בַּר נַשׁ בָּעֵי בְטִהֲרָה טְהוֹרָה בִּתְקוּפַת תַּמּוּז בָּתַר בַּלָּנַי מַסִּיק לְזוֹרִיֵיהּ וּמֵיתֵייהּ פְּרִיטִין וּמִיפְרְקִינֵיהּ. אָמַר רִבִּי יִרְמְיָה כַּמָּה בַּר נַשׁ בָּעֵי בָּעֲרוּבְתָא בְּפַתֵּי רַמְשָׁא מִנְשַׁיָיא קַלְעָן וּמַעֲבִיר עֲלֵיהֶן וּמֵיתֵי פְרִיטִין וּמַפְרְקִינֵהּ. אָמַר רִבִּי יוּדָן בַּר גַּדְיָא רִבִּי יַעֲקֹב בַּר בּוּן מַנִּיחָן עָלָיו עַד שֶׁיִּכְמוֹשׁוּ וּפוֹדֶה אוֹתָן מוֹצָאֵי שַׁבָּת מִיָּד.
Rebbi Naḥman bar Jacob43The only known Naḥman bar Jacob is Rav Naḥman bar Jacob, Chief Judge in Babylonia and son-in-law of the Resh Galuta. Since carpenters do not make baskets from leaves, they were certainly incompetent to testify to their volume or value. The story therefore notes that in Babylonia, where tithes are rabbinic practice only, any estimate is good. showed a basket of palm leaves to a carpenter and redeemed following his opinion. Rebbi Yannai showed a quarter [qab] wheat to a wheat dealer44In the Rome ms. סיטונאי “grain wholesaler”. While the Mishnah takes as standard the selling price of the wholesaler, he asked his buying price. and redeemed following his opinion. Rebbi Simon showed produce to Rebbi Ḥilqiah who asked him, by their true value? He answered, yes. Rebbi Ḥilqiah said in the name of Rebbi Simon, one does not redeem Second Tithe following the opinion of imbeciles. Rebbi Phineas showed produce to a grits-maker who asked him, by their true value? He said to him, so said Rebbi Ḥilqiah in the name of Rebbi Simon, one does not redeem following the opinion of imbeciles. Rebbi Shammai said, how much a person wants [to pay] on a clear noontime at the summer solstice when the bath master45He runs a thermal bath which will not have many customers in the summer heat; he will sell his supplies cheaply. takes up his bunches, he brings coins and redeems. Rebbi Jeremiah said, as much as a person wants Friday afternoon from women braiders46They are fully occupied and will react only if they get an extraordinarily cheap buy. R. Jeremiah seems to have no compunctions to go to a women’s hairdresser shop! when he passes by, he brings coins and redeems. Rebbi Yudan bar Gadya47He seems to be R. Yudan bar Guria. said, Rebbi Jacob bar Abun left it lying until it got moldy and redeemed it immediately after the Sabbath.
Rebbi Naḥman bar Jacob43The only known Naḥman bar Jacob is Rav Naḥman bar Jacob, Chief Judge in Babylonia and son-in-law of the Resh Galuta. Since carpenters do not make baskets from leaves, they were certainly incompetent to testify to their volume or value. The story therefore notes that in Babylonia, where tithes are rabbinic practice only, any estimate is good. showed a basket of palm leaves to a carpenter and redeemed following his opinion. Rebbi Yannai showed a quarter [qab] wheat to a wheat dealer44In the Rome ms. סיטונאי “grain wholesaler”. While the Mishnah takes as standard the selling price of the wholesaler, he asked his buying price. and redeemed following his opinion. Rebbi Simon showed produce to Rebbi Ḥilqiah who asked him, by their true value? He answered, yes. Rebbi Ḥilqiah said in the name of Rebbi Simon, one does not redeem Second Tithe following the opinion of imbeciles. Rebbi Phineas showed produce to a grits-maker who asked him, by their true value? He said to him, so said Rebbi Ḥilqiah in the name of Rebbi Simon, one does not redeem following the opinion of imbeciles. Rebbi Shammai said, how much a person wants [to pay] on a clear noontime at the summer solstice when the bath master45He runs a thermal bath which will not have many customers in the summer heat; he will sell his supplies cheaply. takes up his bunches, he brings coins and redeems. Rebbi Jeremiah said, as much as a person wants Friday afternoon from women braiders46They are fully occupied and will react only if they get an extraordinarily cheap buy. R. Jeremiah seems to have no compunctions to go to a women’s hairdresser shop! when he passes by, he brings coins and redeems. Rebbi Yudan bar Gadya47He seems to be R. Yudan bar Guria. said, Rebbi Jacob bar Abun left it lying until it got moldy and redeemed it immediately after the Sabbath.
רִבִּי מָנָא הֲוָה לֵיהּ מְשָׁח וְאַחְתֵּיהּ לְעַכּוֹ. אָמַר לֵיהּ רִבִּי חִיָיה בַּר אָדָא אִין הַהוּא מִישְׁחָךְ דְּבֵית מַעֲקֶה קַיָים הָא עֹנָתָךְ דְּנִיפְרְקִינֵיהּ דְּלָא טָב שִׁיתָא מָנֵי.
Rebbi Mana had oil which he brought down to Acco48Where olive oil is more expensive than at the place of production in Galilee.. Rebbi Ḥiyya bar Ada said to him, if your oil there at the parapet49Second Tithe money oil at your house in Galilee. is still there, it is your time that you should redeem it for [there] it is not worth six minas50Instead of שיתא מני the Rome ms. has מינך “from you”; a corruption..
Rebbi Mana had oil which he brought down to Acco48Where olive oil is more expensive than at the place of production in Galilee.. Rebbi Ḥiyya bar Ada said to him, if your oil there at the parapet49Second Tithe money oil at your house in Galilee. is still there, it is your time that you should redeem it for [there] it is not worth six minas50Instead of שיתא מני the Rome ms. has מינך “from you”; a corruption..
אָמַר רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן פּוֹדִין מַעֲשֵׂר שֵׁינִי עַל פִּי שְׁלֹשָׁה לְקוּחוֹת וַאֲפִילוּ אֶחָד מֵהֶן גּוֹי. אֲפִילוּ אֶחָד מֵהֶן בַּעַל. רִבִּי יוֹנָה בָּעֵי שְׁנֵיהֶם גּוֹיִם לֹא שְׁנֵיהֶן בְּעָלִים לֹא אֶחָד גּוֹי וְאֶחָד בַעַל לֹא. אֶלָּא לִצְדָדִין אִיתְאֲמָרַת.
Rebbi Joḥanan said, one redeems Second Tithe by the offers of three buyers, even if one of them is a Gentile, even if one of them is an owner. Rebbi Jonah asked: Not two Gentiles, not two owners; also not one Gentile and one owner? No, it was said separately51Only one Gentile, only one owner, but one Gentile and one owner is acceptable. This is also accepted in the Babli, Sanhedrin 12b, where the owner and his wife are accepted, in Rashi’s interpretation on condition that the wife have her own business and not be dependent on her husband for her upkeep..
Rebbi Joḥanan said, one redeems Second Tithe by the offers of three buyers, even if one of them is a Gentile, even if one of them is an owner. Rebbi Jonah asked: Not two Gentiles, not two owners; also not one Gentile and one owner? No, it was said separately51Only one Gentile, only one owner, but one Gentile and one owner is acceptable. This is also accepted in the Babli, Sanhedrin 12b, where the owner and his wife are accepted, in Rashi’s interpretation on condition that the wife have her own business and not be dependent on her husband for her upkeep..