Talmud Yerushalmi
Yerushalmi Makkot 1:7 ירושלמי מכות א׳:ז׳
Part of: Chapter 1
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משנה: רִבִּי יוֹסֵי בֵּי רִבִּי יְהוּדָה אוֹמֵר לְעוֹלָם אֵינוֹ נֶהֱרָג עַד שֶׁיְּהוּ שְׁנֵי עֵדָיו מַתְרִין בּוֹ שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר עַל פִּי שְׁנַיִם עֵדִים. דָּבָר אַחֵר עַל פִּי שְׁנַיִם עֵדִים שֶׁלֹּא תְהֵא סַנְהֶדְרִין שׁוֹמַעַת מִפִּי הַתּוּרְגְּמָן:
MISHNAH: Rebbi Yose ben Rebbi Jehudah63In the Babli and most independent Mishnah mss: “R. Yose” (i. e., ben Halaphta). The reading of the Yerushalmi in Mishnah and Halakhah contradicts Mishnah 2:6. Since the statement of R. Yose ben R. Jehudah is not discussed in Halakhah 2:6, the correct attribution there cannot be determined. Since his statement is not accepted as practice in the Babli, it seems that “R. Yose ben R. Jehudah” is the correct attribution here. says, nobody can be executed unless his two witnesses warned him64Warning by a single person is invalid, even if witnessed by two persons., as it is said: By the mouth of two witnesses54The argument refers to all Mishnaiot 9–13. The requirement of “two witnesses or three witnesses” for criminal convictions is written in Deut. 17:6, 19:15. (In addition, rendering judgment in a criminal trial on the basis of a single testimony is forbidden in Num. 35:30.) While in both verses of Deut. the background clearly is that of criminal trials, the redundancy is taken as a sign that in civil trials (not on arbitration panels) the biblical rules of evidence of criminal trials have to be followed. The Babli disagrees in the name of Rav Nahman (6b).. Another explanation: By the mouth of two witnesses, that the court may not hear from the mouth of an interpreter65Testimony and cross examinations are possible only if all judges understand the witnesses without translator. The Babli (6b) permits cross-examination using a translator if the witnesses’ answers are directly understood by the judges..
MISHNAH: Rebbi Yose ben Rebbi Jehudah63In the Babli and most independent Mishnah mss: “R. Yose” (i. e., ben Halaphta). The reading of the Yerushalmi in Mishnah and Halakhah contradicts Mishnah 2:6. Since the statement of R. Yose ben R. Jehudah is not discussed in Halakhah 2:6, the correct attribution there cannot be determined. Since his statement is not accepted as practice in the Babli, it seems that “R. Yose ben R. Jehudah” is the correct attribution here. says, nobody can be executed unless his two witnesses warned him64Warning by a single person is invalid, even if witnessed by two persons., as it is said: By the mouth of two witnesses54The argument refers to all Mishnaiot 9–13. The requirement of “two witnesses or three witnesses” for criminal convictions is written in Deut. 17:6, 19:15. (In addition, rendering judgment in a criminal trial on the basis of a single testimony is forbidden in Num. 35:30.) While in both verses of Deut. the background clearly is that of criminal trials, the redundancy is taken as a sign that in civil trials (not on arbitration panels) the biblical rules of evidence of criminal trials have to be followed. The Babli disagrees in the name of Rav Nahman (6b).. Another explanation: By the mouth of two witnesses, that the court may not hear from the mouth of an interpreter65Testimony and cross examinations are possible only if all judges understand the witnesses without translator. The Babli (6b) permits cross-examination using a translator if the witnesses’ answers are directly understood by the judges..
הלכה: רִבִּי יוֹסֵי בֵּי רִבִּי יְהוּדָה אוֹמֵר כול׳. תַּנֵּי רִבִּי הוֹשַׁעְיָה. הַפָּסוּק הַזֶּה אָמוּר בִּשְׁתֵּי כִיתֵּי עֵדִים. כִּי יָקוּם עֵד חָמָס בְּאִישׁ. עֵד זוֹמֵם שֶׁהוּא עוֹנֶה בְאִישׁ. לַעֲנוֹת בּוֹ. לֹא בְעֵידוּתוֹ. עֵדִים זוֹמְמִין מָהוּ שֶׁיְּהוּ צְרִיכִין לְקַבֵּל הַתְרָיָיה. רִבִּי יִצְחָק בַּר טֶבְלַיי בְשֵׁם רִבִּי לָעְזָר. עֵדִים זוֹמְמִין אֵינָן צְרִיכִין לְקַבֵּל הַתְרָיָיה. אָמַר רִבִּי אַבָּהוּ. לֹא חַיְישׁוּן לוֹן. אָמַר רִבִּי יַעֲקֹב בַּר דַּסַּי. וְאִית נְכוֹלִין סַגִּין מָאן אִילֵּין חַמְיָין חֲבֵרֵיהוֹן נַפְקִין מִיקְטְלָה וְלָא אָמְרִין כְּלוּם.
HALAKHAH: “Rebbi Yose ben Rebbi Jehudah says,” etc. Rebbi Hoshaia stated: The following verse is said about two groups of witnesses. If an oppressive witness arises against a man, a plotting witness who answers to a man. Answering him, not his testimony66While testimony may not stand up under cross-examination, the worst that can happen to a witness in that case is that the court does not believe him. A criminal conviction can only follow if the new group of witnesses answer him, the plotting witness, by showing that he could not have been present at the place of the alleged crime or transaction. This paragraph belongs to Mishnah 6.. Do plotting witnesses have to be warned? Rebbi Isaac bar Tevlai in the name of Rebbi Eleazar: Plotting witnesses do not have to accept warning67In the Babli, Ketubot 32a, this is an anonymous statement accepted without discussion.. Rebbi Abbahu said, we do not take notice of this. Rebbi Jacob bar Dassai said, and there are very cunning people who even if they see their comrades being led out to be killed do not say anything68It is not clear whether this statement supports R. Eleazar or R. Abbahu. In the first case, he argues that a special warning about penalties of plotting perjury is unnecessary since the bad guys automatically will stay away as far as possible from the court. In the second case he wants to point out that good people will not be kept away from being witnesses by being admonished by the court about penalties of plotting perjury, and it is a good thing that bad people will be frightened away..
HALAKHAH: “Rebbi Yose ben Rebbi Jehudah says,” etc. Rebbi Hoshaia stated: The following verse is said about two groups of witnesses. If an oppressive witness arises against a man, a plotting witness who answers to a man. Answering him, not his testimony66While testimony may not stand up under cross-examination, the worst that can happen to a witness in that case is that the court does not believe him. A criminal conviction can only follow if the new group of witnesses answer him, the plotting witness, by showing that he could not have been present at the place of the alleged crime or transaction. This paragraph belongs to Mishnah 6.. Do plotting witnesses have to be warned? Rebbi Isaac bar Tevlai in the name of Rebbi Eleazar: Plotting witnesses do not have to accept warning67In the Babli, Ketubot 32a, this is an anonymous statement accepted without discussion.. Rebbi Abbahu said, we do not take notice of this. Rebbi Jacob bar Dassai said, and there are very cunning people who even if they see their comrades being led out to be killed do not say anything68It is not clear whether this statement supports R. Eleazar or R. Abbahu. In the first case, he argues that a special warning about penalties of plotting perjury is unnecessary since the bad guys automatically will stay away as far as possible from the court. In the second case he wants to point out that good people will not be kept away from being witnesses by being admonished by the court about penalties of plotting perjury, and it is a good thing that bad people will be frightened away..
מִי שֶׁנִּגְמַר דִּינוֹ כול׳. כָּתַב כָּל נְכָסָיו לִשְׁנֵי בְנֵי אָדָם כְּאַחַת הָיוּ הָעֵדִים כְּשֵׁירִין לָזֶה וּפְסוּלִין לָזֶה. רִבִּי הִילָא אָמַר. אִתְפַּלְּגוֹן רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן וְרִבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן לָקִישׁ. חַד אָמַר. מֵאַחַר שֶׁהֵן פְּסוּלִין לָזֶה פְּסוּלִין לָזֶה. וְחָרָנָה אָמַר. כְּשֵׁירִין לָזֶה וּפְסוּלִין לָזֶה. רִבִּי מָנָא לֹא מְפָרֵשׁ. רִבִּי אָבוּן מְפָרֵשׁ. רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן אָמַר. מֵאַחַר שֶׁהֵן פְּסוּלִין לָזֶה פְּסוּלִין לָזֶה. רִבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן לָקִישׁ אָמַר. כְּשֵׁירִין לָזֶה וּפְסוּלִין לָזֶה. אָמַר רִבִּי לָעְזָר. מַתְנִיתָא מְסַיְיעָה לְרִבִּי יוֹחָנָן. מַה הַשְּׁנַיִם נִמְצָא אֶחָד מֵהֶן קָרוֹב אוֹ פָסוּל עֵדוּתָן בְּטֵילָה אַף הַשְּׁלֹשָה נִמְצָא אֶחָד מֵהֶן קָרוֹב אוֹ פָסוּל עֵדוּתָן בְּטֵילָה. מְנַיִין אֲפִילּוּ מֵאָה תַּלְמוּד לוֹמַר עֵדִים. רִבִּי יַעֲקֹב בַּר אָחָא אָמַר. אִתְפַּלְּגוֹן רִבִּי חֲנִינָה חֲבֵרוֹן דְּרַבָּנִין וְרַבָּנִין. חַד אָמַר. יֵאוּת אָמַר רִבִּי לָעְזָר. וְחָרָנָה אָמַר. לֹא אָמַר רִבִּי לָעְזָר יֵאוּת. מָאן דְּאָמַר. יֵאוּת אָמַר רִבִּי לָעְזָר. נַעֲשִׂית כְּעֵידות אַחַת וּכְהַתְרָיָיה אַחַת. וְכָל עֵדוּת שֶׁבָּטְלָה מִקְצָתָהּ בָּטְלָה כוּלָּהּ. מָאן דְּאָמַר. לֹא אָמַר רִבִּי לָעְזָר יֵאוּת. נַעֲשִׂית כִּשְׁתֵּי כִיתֵּי עֵדִים כְּשֵׁירִין לָזֶה וּפְסוּלִין לָזֶה.
“Whose sentence was passed,” etc. 69This paragraph refers to Mishnah 12, not 16. It is also found in Ketubot 11:6, explained there in Notes 94–102, and Gittin1:1 (Notes 20–21). If somebody wrote all his property over to two persons in one document and the testimony of the witnesses was valid for one but invalid for the other. Rebbi Hila said, Rebbi Joḥanan and Rebbi Simeon ben Laqish disagreed; one said, since it is invalid for one it is invalid for the other, but the other said, it is valid for one and invalid for the other. Rebbi Mana did not specify; Rebbi Abun specified: Rebbi Joḥanan said, since it is invalid for one it is invalid for the other; but Rebbi Simeon ben Laqish said, it is valid for one and invalid for the other. Rebbi Eleazar said, the Mishnah supports Rebbi Joḥanan: “Since the testimony of two [witnesses] is invalid if one of them is found to be a relative or a disqualified person51If one witness is disqualified by the rules of Mishnah Sanhedrin either 3:6 or 3:7, there is only one testimony, insufficient by biblical standards., the same holds for three if one of them is found to be a relative or a disqualified person. From where even for a hundred? The verse says42The repetition, two witnesses or three witnesses, when it could have been “two or three witnesses”, implies that any number of witnesses have the same status as do two., witnesses.” Rebbi Jacob bar Aḥa said, Rebbi Ḥanina the colleague of the rabbis and the rabbis disagree. One says, the argument of Rebbi Eleazar is correct, but the other says, the argument of Rebbi Eleazar is not correct. For him who says, the argument of Rebbi Eleazar is correct, it is a single testimony and a single warning, and any testimony which is partially disqualified is totally disqualified70Tosephta Bava qamma 6:23.. For him who says, the argument of Rebbi Eleazar is not correct, it is as if two groups of witnesses came, valid for one and invalid for the other.
“Whose sentence was passed,” etc. 69This paragraph refers to Mishnah 12, not 16. It is also found in Ketubot 11:6, explained there in Notes 94–102, and Gittin1:1 (Notes 20–21). If somebody wrote all his property over to two persons in one document and the testimony of the witnesses was valid for one but invalid for the other. Rebbi Hila said, Rebbi Joḥanan and Rebbi Simeon ben Laqish disagreed; one said, since it is invalid for one it is invalid for the other, but the other said, it is valid for one and invalid for the other. Rebbi Mana did not specify; Rebbi Abun specified: Rebbi Joḥanan said, since it is invalid for one it is invalid for the other; but Rebbi Simeon ben Laqish said, it is valid for one and invalid for the other. Rebbi Eleazar said, the Mishnah supports Rebbi Joḥanan: “Since the testimony of two [witnesses] is invalid if one of them is found to be a relative or a disqualified person51If one witness is disqualified by the rules of Mishnah Sanhedrin either 3:6 or 3:7, there is only one testimony, insufficient by biblical standards., the same holds for three if one of them is found to be a relative or a disqualified person. From where even for a hundred? The verse says42The repetition, two witnesses or three witnesses, when it could have been “two or three witnesses”, implies that any number of witnesses have the same status as do two., witnesses.” Rebbi Jacob bar Aḥa said, Rebbi Ḥanina the colleague of the rabbis and the rabbis disagree. One says, the argument of Rebbi Eleazar is correct, but the other says, the argument of Rebbi Eleazar is not correct. For him who says, the argument of Rebbi Eleazar is correct, it is a single testimony and a single warning, and any testimony which is partially disqualified is totally disqualified70Tosephta Bava qamma 6:23.. For him who says, the argument of Rebbi Eleazar is not correct, it is as if two groups of witnesses came, valid for one and invalid for the other.