Talmud Yerushalmi
Yerushalmi Nedarim 8:2 ירושלמי נדרים ח׳:ב׳
Part of: Chapter 8
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משנה: עַד הַפֶּסַח אָסוּר עַד שֶׁיַּגִּיעַ עַד שֶׁיְּהֵא אָסוּר עַד שֶׁיֵּצֵא. עַד לִפְנֵי הַפֶּסַח רִבִּי מֵאִיר אוֹמֵר עַד שֶׁיַּגִּיעַ. רִבִּי יוֹסֵי אוֹמֵר עַד שֶׁיֵּצֵא.
MISHNAH: ‘Until Passover’36“A qônām that I shall not … until Passover”., he is forbidden until it comes, ‘until it be’, he is forbidden until it is passed37This follows the vernacular since in popular language “Passover” means “the holiday of unleaved bread” (Nisan 15–21), whereas in biblical language “Passover” is the day of slaughter of the Passover sacrifice (Nisan 14).. ‘Until before Passover’, Rebbi Meїr says, until it comes, Rebbi Yose says, until it passed38The Halakhah explains that this refers to biblical language; the difference between the two opinions is whether the prohibition ends at nightfall of Nisan 13 or 14..
MISHNAH: ‘Until Passover’36“A qônām that I shall not … until Passover”., he is forbidden until it comes, ‘until it be’, he is forbidden until it is passed37This follows the vernacular since in popular language “Passover” means “the holiday of unleaved bread” (Nisan 15–21), whereas in biblical language “Passover” is the day of slaughter of the Passover sacrifice (Nisan 14).. ‘Until before Passover’, Rebbi Meїr says, until it comes, Rebbi Yose says, until it passed38The Halakhah explains that this refers to biblical language; the difference between the two opinions is whether the prohibition ends at nightfall of Nisan 13 or 14..
הלכה: עַד הַפֶּסַח אָסוּר כול׳. רִבִּי יִרְמְיָה בָּעֵי קוֹמֵי רִבִי זְעִירָה. מִחְלְפָה שִׁיטָּתֵיהּ דְּרִבִּי יוֹסֵי. תַּמָּן הוּא אוֹמֵר. עַד שֶׁיֵּצְאוּ כָּל הָרְשׁוּיוֹת הַגְּדוֹלוֹת. עַד שֶׁיֵּצְאוּ כָּל הָרְשׁוּיוֹת הַקְּטַנּוֹת. וָכָא הוּא אָמַר הָכֵין. אָמַר לֵיהּ. מִשֶׁמֵּת בֶּן עַזַּאי וּבֶן זוֹמָא בָטְלוּ הַשַּׁקְדָּנִים. לֹא עָמַד שׁוֹקֵד עַד שֶׁעָמַד יִרְמְיָה. אָמַר רִבִּי בָּא בְּרֵיהּ דְּרִבִּי חִיָיה בַּר וָוא. לָמָּה הוּא מְקַנְתֵּר לְהוֹן. לֹא כְּבָר קַשּׁוֹנְתָהּ רִבִּי לְעָזָר קוֹמֵי רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן. מִחְלְפָה שִׁיטָּתֵיהּ דְּרִבִּי יוֹסֵי. אָמַר לֵיהּ. לֵית הִיא מִחְלְפָה. מַתְנִיתָא הִיא מִחְלְפָה. וְתַנֵּי דְבֵית רִבִּי כֵן. עַד לִפְנֵי הַפֶּסַח. רִבִּי מֵאִיר אוֹמֵר. עַד שֶׁיֵּצֵא. רִבִּי יוֹסֵי אוֹמֵר. עַד שֶׁיַּגִּיעַ. אֲנָן בָּעֵיי עַד לִפְנֵי וְאַתְּ אֲמַר אָכֵין. אָמַר רִבִּי זְעִירָא. לְשׁוֹן נִיוָתִי הוּא. עַד לִפְנֵי פִּיסְחָא. אָמַר רִבִּי אָבִין. הַכֹּל מוֹדִין בַּפֶּסַח שֶׁהוּא מוּתָּר. מַה פְלִיגִין. בִּפְרוֹס הַפֶּסַח. הָהֵין אָמַר. עַד שֶׁיַּגִּיעַ. וְהָהֵין אָמַר. עַד שֶׁיֵּצֵא.
HALAKHAH: “ ‘Until Passover’, he is forbidden,” etc. 39A slightly longer parallel to this paragraph is in Qiddušin 3:11. It is difficult to decide which version is original. Rebbi Jeremiah asked before Rebbi Ze‘ira: The opinion of Rebbi Yose seems to be inverted. There40Qiddušin Mishnah 3:9–10. A father, who has the right to marry off his underage daughter without asking her consent, has two sets of daughters from two wives. He marries off an older daughter (whom the bridegroom has not yet seen) but does not remember which one. Rebbi Meїr says, all his daughters are forbidden to marry except the youngest of the younger group, since any other daughter either is married and forbidden to every man except the one with whom the father contracted, or she is the sister of the married one and forbidden to the man with whom the father contracted. Rebbi Yose holds that all are permitted to other men except the oldest of the older group, who is married to the chosen groom. Similarly, if he married off the younger one, R. Meїr forbids all but the oldest of the older group while R. Joshua declares the youngest of the younger group to be married. It follows that R. Meїr interprets common language to mean the largest possible set whereas R. Yose holds that people always speak as definitely as possible. Therefore, in the Mishnah here, R. Yose should exclude the day of Passover and R. Meїr should include it., he says “until all the elder possibilities are exhausted, until all the younger possibilities are exhausted,” and here, he says so? He said to him: Since Ben Azai and Ben Zoma died, the perseverers41Cf. Soṭa9, Note 271. disappeared; no perseverer was there until Jeremiah appeared. Rebbi Abba, son of Rebbi Ḥiyya bar Abba, said, why does he needle him42Cf. Berakhot 2:3, Note 96.? Did not Rebbi Eleazar already ask before Rebbi Joḥanan, the opinion of Rebbi Yose seems to be inverted? He said to him, it is not inverted, the Mishnah is inverted, for in the House of Rebbi they stated43The same in the Babli, 61b, in the name of Rav.: “ ‘Until before Passover’, Rebbi Meїr says, until it passed, Rebbi Yose says, until it comes.” We ask “until before”, and you say so44Who could ever think that “until before” could mean “until after”?? He said to him, this is a Nabatean expression, “much45I. e., the festival of unleavened bread; cf. Note 39. before Passover”. Rebbi Abin said, everybody agrees that he is permitted on Passover46Holidays which are fixed in the calendar.. Where do they disagree? The day before Passover. One of them says, until it comes, the other until it passed.
HALAKHAH: “ ‘Until Passover’, he is forbidden,” etc. 39A slightly longer parallel to this paragraph is in Qiddušin 3:11. It is difficult to decide which version is original. Rebbi Jeremiah asked before Rebbi Ze‘ira: The opinion of Rebbi Yose seems to be inverted. There40Qiddušin Mishnah 3:9–10. A father, who has the right to marry off his underage daughter without asking her consent, has two sets of daughters from two wives. He marries off an older daughter (whom the bridegroom has not yet seen) but does not remember which one. Rebbi Meїr says, all his daughters are forbidden to marry except the youngest of the younger group, since any other daughter either is married and forbidden to every man except the one with whom the father contracted, or she is the sister of the married one and forbidden to the man with whom the father contracted. Rebbi Yose holds that all are permitted to other men except the oldest of the older group, who is married to the chosen groom. Similarly, if he married off the younger one, R. Meїr forbids all but the oldest of the older group while R. Joshua declares the youngest of the younger group to be married. It follows that R. Meїr interprets common language to mean the largest possible set whereas R. Yose holds that people always speak as definitely as possible. Therefore, in the Mishnah here, R. Yose should exclude the day of Passover and R. Meїr should include it., he says “until all the elder possibilities are exhausted, until all the younger possibilities are exhausted,” and here, he says so? He said to him: Since Ben Azai and Ben Zoma died, the perseverers41Cf. Soṭa9, Note 271. disappeared; no perseverer was there until Jeremiah appeared. Rebbi Abba, son of Rebbi Ḥiyya bar Abba, said, why does he needle him42Cf. Berakhot 2:3, Note 96.? Did not Rebbi Eleazar already ask before Rebbi Joḥanan, the opinion of Rebbi Yose seems to be inverted? He said to him, it is not inverted, the Mishnah is inverted, for in the House of Rebbi they stated43The same in the Babli, 61b, in the name of Rav.: “ ‘Until before Passover’, Rebbi Meїr says, until it passed, Rebbi Yose says, until it comes.” We ask “until before”, and you say so44Who could ever think that “until before” could mean “until after”?? He said to him, this is a Nabatean expression, “much45I. e., the festival of unleavened bread; cf. Note 39. before Passover”. Rebbi Abin said, everybody agrees that he is permitted on Passover46Holidays which are fixed in the calendar.. Where do they disagree? The day before Passover. One of them says, until it comes, the other until it passed.