Talmud Yerushalmi
Yerushalmi Peah 5:3 ירושלמי פאה ה׳:ג׳
Part of: Chapter 5
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משנה: אֵין מְגַלְגְּלִין בְּטוֹפֵיחַ דִּבְרֵי רִבִּי מֵאִיר. וַחֲכָמִים מַתִּירִין מִפְּנֵי שֶׁאֵיפְשָׁר.
MISHNAH: One does not use a waterwheel with buckets72After the harvest, before the poor had cleaned out vineyard (or field), to avoid hurting the vines (or to prepare the field for the next season.), the words of Rebbi Meïr. But the Sages do permit it, because it is impossible73To do otherwise, since the vineyard would dry up. [This translation follows תוספתא כפשוטה p. 155; it is not much different from the explanation of Arukh (s. v. טפח) in the name of R. Daniel Gaon.]. A householder wandering from one place to another who was in need of taking gleanings, forgotten sheaves, peah, and tithes of the poor74Since his money had run out. should repay them once he comes home, the words of Rebbi Eliezer75Taking into account his property at his place of residence, at no time was he eligible for public assistance.. But the Sages say, he was poor at that moment76Having no money with him and unable to get credit..
MISHNAH: One does not use a waterwheel with buckets72After the harvest, before the poor had cleaned out vineyard (or field), to avoid hurting the vines (or to prepare the field for the next season.), the words of Rebbi Meïr. But the Sages do permit it, because it is impossible73To do otherwise, since the vineyard would dry up. [This translation follows תוספתא כפשוטה p. 155; it is not much different from the explanation of Arukh (s. v. טפח) in the name of R. Daniel Gaon.]. A householder wandering from one place to another who was in need of taking gleanings, forgotten sheaves, peah, and tithes of the poor74Since his money had run out. should repay them once he comes home, the words of Rebbi Eliezer75Taking into account his property at his place of residence, at no time was he eligible for public assistance.. But the Sages say, he was poor at that moment76Having no money with him and unable to get credit..
הלכה: תַּנִּי הַמְּרַבֵּץ שָׂדֵהוּ עַד שֶׁלֹּא יָרַד עָנִי לְתוֹכָהּ אִם הֶזֵּיקוֹ מְרוּבָּה עַל שֶׁל עָנִי מוּתָּר. וְאִם הֶיזֵּק עָנִי מְרוּבָּה עַל שֶׁלּוֹ אָסוּר. רִבִּי יְהוּדָה אוֹמֵר בֵּין כָּךְ וּבֵין כָּךְ מֵנִיחָן עַל הַגֶּדֶר וְהֶעָנִי בָּא וְנוֹטֵל אֶת שֶׁלּוֹ.
HALAKHAH: It was stated77Tosephta Peah 2:20. There, the reading is: “R. Jehudah says, he collects (the part of the poor) and deposits it on the fence.”: He who waters his field before a poor person had entered it, if his potential loss is greater than the poor man’s, it is permitted, but if the poor man’s loss is greater than his, it is prohibited. Rebbi Jehudah says, in both cases he deposits them on the fence and the poor man comes and takes what is his.
HALAKHAH: It was stated77Tosephta Peah 2:20. There, the reading is: “R. Jehudah says, he collects (the part of the poor) and deposits it on the fence.”: He who waters his field before a poor person had entered it, if his potential loss is greater than the poor man’s, it is permitted, but if the poor man’s loss is greater than his, it is prohibited. Rebbi Jehudah says, in both cases he deposits them on the fence and the poor man comes and takes what is his.
מֻחְלְפָא שִׁיטָּתֵיהּ דְּרִבִּי יְהוּדָה. תַּמָּן הוּא אָמַר כְּשֵׁם שֶׁהוּא מֵידָל בְּשֶׁלּוֹ כָּךְ הוּא מֵידָל בְּשֶׁל עֲנִיִים. וְכֹא הוּא אָמַר הָכִין. תַּמָּן הֵן גָּרְמוּ לְעַצְמָן וְלֹא בָאוּ. בְּרַם הָכָא הֲרֵי בָּאוּ.
The reasoning of Rebbi Jehudah is inverted: There78Mishnah 7:5: “If somebody is pruning vines, just as he is pruning his, he may prune the poor’s, the words of Rebbi Jehudah. Rebbi Meïr says, he is empowered to do it on his own vines, but not on the poor’s.” One prunes new shoots of vines at the start of the growing season; at that moment, the poor have rights only to the grapes growing singly, not in bunches, directly on the branch., he says that just as he prunes for himself, so he prunes for the poor; but here he says thus79He collects and puts the poor’s part aside.! There, they caused it for themselves since they did not come80Nobody is wasting time to pluck budding single grape berries. In Halakhah 7:5, there is an another answer given: Since by pruning one makes the vine grow more grape bunches, the poor’s part also will be increased in the future., but here they came.
The reasoning of Rebbi Jehudah is inverted: There78Mishnah 7:5: “If somebody is pruning vines, just as he is pruning his, he may prune the poor’s, the words of Rebbi Jehudah. Rebbi Meïr says, he is empowered to do it on his own vines, but not on the poor’s.” One prunes new shoots of vines at the start of the growing season; at that moment, the poor have rights only to the grapes growing singly, not in bunches, directly on the branch., he says that just as he prunes for himself, so he prunes for the poor; but here he says thus79He collects and puts the poor’s part aside.! There, they caused it for themselves since they did not come80Nobody is wasting time to pluck budding single grape berries. In Halakhah 7:5, there is an another answer given: Since by pruning one makes the vine grow more grape bunches, the poor’s part also will be increased in the future., but here they came.
מֻחְלְפָא שִׁיטָּתִין דְּרַבָּנִין. תָּמַּן אִינּוּן אָמְרִין אִם הֶזֵּיקוֹ מְרוּבָּה עַל שֶׁל עָנִי. וְכֹא אִינּוּן אָמְרִין הָכֵין. תַּמָּן אֶפְשַּׁר בְּרַם הָכָא אֵיפְשַׁר.
The reasoning of the rabbis is inverted: There81In Mishnah 7:5, R. Meïr, who disagrees with R. Jehudah, is identified with the anonymous opponent of Rebbi Jehudah in the Tosephta quoted at the start of this Halakhah., they say if his potential loss is greater than the poor’s, and here they say thus82In our Mishnah, they permit using the water wheel to mechanically water the vineyard.! There, it is possible83To prune only after the poor collected their share., but here it is impossible.
The reasoning of the rabbis is inverted: There81In Mishnah 7:5, R. Meïr, who disagrees with R. Jehudah, is identified with the anonymous opponent of Rebbi Jehudah in the Tosephta quoted at the start of this Halakhah., they say if his potential loss is greater than the poor’s, and here they say thus82In our Mishnah, they permit using the water wheel to mechanically water the vineyard.! There, it is possible83To prune only after the poor collected their share., but here it is impossible.
וְהָא רִבִּי מֵאִיר אָמַר אֵין מְגַלְגְּלִין וְשָׁמִין שֶׁל בַּעַל הַבַּיִת בְּהֶפְסֵידוֹ. וְהָא רַבָּנִין אָמְרִין מְגַלְגְּלִין וְשָׁמִין לָעֲנִיִים בְּהֶפְסֵידָן. וּלְמִי הוּא מְשַׁלֵּם. אָמַר רִבִּי יוֹנָה לָעֲנִיֵי אוֹתָהּ הָעִיר דְּלָא כֵן מַה נָן אָמְרִין. אָמַר רִבִּי חִיָיא בַּר אָדָא לְמִידַּת הַדִּין נִצְרְכָה.
Now Rebbi Meïr says, one does not use the water wheel, and one estimates the loss to the owner. Now the rabbis say, one uses the water wheel and estimates the loss to the poor84So why does R. Meïr insist on not watering, if all accounts can be satisfied with money?. To whom does he pay? Rebbi Jonah said, to the poor of his place, because otherwise, what could we say85There is no individual claimant; hence, there would be no payment unless the head of the local charity institution brings action in the name of all local, potentially empowered, poor.? Rebbi Ḥiyya bar Ada said, it is needed for the measure of justice86Even the administrator of charity could not bring action unless specifically empowered to do so. It is therefore not superfluous to restrict the potential claimants to those represented by the administrator of charity..
Now Rebbi Meïr says, one does not use the water wheel, and one estimates the loss to the owner. Now the rabbis say, one uses the water wheel and estimates the loss to the poor84So why does R. Meïr insist on not watering, if all accounts can be satisfied with money?. To whom does he pay? Rebbi Jonah said, to the poor of his place, because otherwise, what could we say85There is no individual claimant; hence, there would be no payment unless the head of the local charity institution brings action in the name of all local, potentially empowered, poor.? Rebbi Ḥiyya bar Ada said, it is needed for the measure of justice86Even the administrator of charity could not bring action unless specifically empowered to do so. It is therefore not superfluous to restrict the potential claimants to those represented by the administrator of charity..