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6:7:1

משנה: תְּבוּאָה שֶׁנִּיתְּנָה לְשַׁחַת אוֹ לַאֲלוּמָה וְכֵן בְּאִיגּוּדֵי הַשּׁוּם וַאֲגוּדַת הַשּׁוּם וְהַבְּצָלִים אֵין לָהֶן שִׁכְחָה וְכָל הַטְּמוּנִין בָּאָרֶץ כְּגוֹן הַלּוּף וְהַשּׁוּם וְהַבְּצָלִים. רִבִּי יְהוּדָה אוֹמֵר אֵין לָהֶן שִׁכְחָה. וַחֲכָמִים אוֹמְרִים יֵשׁ לָהֶן שִׁכְחָה.

MISHNAH: Grain cut for animal feed145Cut as fodder (in contrast to grain cut for human consumption but used as fodder) means that it was cut green. In the same way, grain cut to bind sheaves must still have flexible stalks; it cannot be dry and does not qualify as “harvest.” or to bind sheaves, and similarly garlic used to bind146Garlic leaves used to bind bundles of garlic or onions. as well as bundles of garlic and onions147Onions and garlic are bound or plaited in small bundles for later use but these are then bound together in large bunches for transport. The small bundles are not made for transport to storage and by Mishnah 5:7 do not fall under the law of the forgotten sheaf. are not subject to “forgotten sheaves.” Anything hidden in the ground148Plants whose edible part, or main part, is the one hidden in the ground., such as luf149In classical Arabic, לוּף means serpentary, snake weed, Arum Dracunculus L., a plant with a large bulb. This is the identification given by Arukh, based on a Gaonic source. Maimonides (Commentary on the Mishnah) declares it “doubtless to be a kind of onion.” Rashi (Shabbat 126b) declares it to be a kind of legume. The determination by Arukh must be accepted. (In modern Arabic, לוּף liffa is Luffa cylindrica Roem, dishcloth gourd, which is inedible.), garlic, and onions, Rebbi Jehudah says, they are not subject to “forgotten sheaves”, but the Sages say, they are subject to “forgotten sheaves.”

MISHNAH: Grain cut for animal feed145Cut as fodder (in contrast to grain cut for human consumption but used as fodder) means that it was cut green. In the same way, grain cut to bind sheaves must still have flexible stalks; it cannot be dry and does not qualify as “harvest.” or to bind sheaves, and similarly garlic used to bind146Garlic leaves used to bind bundles of garlic or onions. as well as bundles of garlic and onions147Onions and garlic are bound or plaited in small bundles for later use but these are then bound together in large bunches for transport. The small bundles are not made for transport to storage and by Mishnah 5:7 do not fall under the law of the forgotten sheaf. are not subject to “forgotten sheaves.” Anything hidden in the ground148Plants whose edible part, or main part, is the one hidden in the ground., such as luf149In classical Arabic, לוּף means serpentary, snake weed, Arum Dracunculus L., a plant with a large bulb. This is the identification given by Arukh, based on a Gaonic source. Maimonides (Commentary on the Mishnah) declares it “doubtless to be a kind of onion.” Rashi (Shabbat 126b) declares it to be a kind of legume. The determination by Arukh must be accepted. (In modern Arabic, לוּף liffa is Luffa cylindrica Roem, dishcloth gourd, which is inedible.), garlic, and onions, Rebbi Jehudah says, they are not subject to “forgotten sheaves”, but the Sages say, they are subject to “forgotten sheaves.”

6:7:2

הלכה: אָמַר רִבִּי יוֹנָה לֹא סוֹף דָּבָר נוֹתְנָהּ אֶלָּא אֲפִילוּ נוֹטְלָהּ עַל מְנָת לִיתְּנָהּ.

HALAKHAH: Rebbi Jonah said150At the moment the decision is made to use certain produce as fodder, not for human consumption, it becomes exempt from the law of the forgotten sheaf., not only if he gave it but even if he took it with the intention of giving it.

HALAKHAH: Rebbi Jonah said150At the moment the decision is made to use certain produce as fodder, not for human consumption, it becomes exempt from the law of the forgotten sheaf., not only if he gave it but even if he took it with the intention of giving it.

6:7:3

תַּמָּן תַּנֵּינָן הַמַּדְלִיק אֶת הַגָּדִישׁ וְהָיוּ בוֹ כֵלִים רִבִּי יְהוּדָה אוֹמֵר מְשַׁלֵּם כָּל מַה שֶׁבְּתוֹכוֹ. וַחֲכָמִים אוֹמְרִים אֵינוֹ מְשַׁלֵּם אֶלָּא גְּדִישׁ חִטִּין אוֹ גְּדִישׁ שְׂעוֹרִין. מִחְלְפָא שִׁיטָּתֵיהּ דְּרִבִּי יְהוּדָה תַּמָּן הוּא אוֹמֵר לְרַבּוֹת אֶת הַטָּמוּן. וְכֹא הוּא אָמַר פְּרָט לְטָמוּן. תַּמָּן וְנֶאֱכַל הַגָּדִישׁ אוֹ הַקָּמָה. מְמַשְׁמַע שֶׁנֶּאֱמַר קָמָה אֵין אָנוּ יוֹדְעִין שֶׁהַגָּדִישׁ בִּכְלָל. וּמַה תַלְמוּד לוֹמַר גָּדִישׁ לְרַבּוֹת אֶת הַטָּמוּן. וְהָכָא שָׂדֶךָ בְגָלוּי פְּרָט לְטָמוּן. מִחְלְפָא שִׁיטָּתִין דְּרַבָּנִין תַּמָּן אִינּוּן אָמְרִין פְּרָט לְטָמוּן. וְכֹא אִינּוּן אָמְרִין לְרַבּוֹת אֶת הַטָּמוּן. תַּמָּן אוֹ הַקָּמָה אוֹ הַשָּׂדֶה. מַה שָׂדְךָ בְגָלוּי אַף כָּל דָּבָר שֶׁהוּא גָלוּי. בְּרַם הָכָא שָׂדֶךָ בְגָלוּי פְּרָט לְטָמוּן. קְצִירְךָ בְגָלוּי פְּרָט לְטָמוּן. וַהֲוֵי מִיעוּט אַחַר מִיעוּט וְאֵין מִיעוּט אַחַר מִיעוּט לְרַבּוֹת הַטָּמוּן.

There151The discussion is paralleled in Baba Qama 6:5 in a different formulation. we have stated: “If someone sets fire to a stack in which were hidden vessels, Rebbi Jehudah says, he pays for all that was in it. But the Sages say, he only pays for a stack of wheat or barley152Both Babli and Yerushalmi are agreed that the Mishnah refers only to a man who lights a legal fire on his own field and it burns out of control. But an arsonist has to pay for everything under any circumstance. The Babli (Baba Qama 61b) states that the Sages agree that whoever started the fire is responsible for agricultural implements usually hidden in stacks. Hence, in the opinion of the Babli but not the Yerushalmi, the Sages free him only from the responsibility for unexpected losses..” The argument of Rebbi Jehudah is inverted; there he says to include the hidden things, but here he says to exclude the hidden things. There (Ex. 22:5) “and a153This is the Biblical text, not “the stack” as given here. “If fire gets out of control and a stack, or the standing grain, or the field is consumed, the person who caused the fire should certainly pay.” stack or standing grain was consumed.” I understand that since it says “standing grain” it includes a stack. Why does the verse add “a stack?” In order to include the hidden things. But here (Deut. 24:10) “your field,” in the open, to exclude anything hidden. The argument of the rabbis is inverted; there they say to exclude the hidden things, but here they say to include the hidden things. There, “or standing grain or a field,” just as a field is in the open, so all must be in the open. But here, “your field,” in the open, to exclude that which is hidden; “your harvest,” in the open, to exclude that which is hidden. That is a restriction after a restriction and every restriction after a restriction is only154There is an אלא missing in the text or the אין is superfluous (Yebamot12:1). The principle that a restriction after a restriction is an extension is universally accepted in both Talmudim; in Horaiot 1:1 it is generalized to the statement that any sequence of restrictions of an even number of elements is an extension; for an odd number of elements it is a restriction. to add the hidden things.

There151The discussion is paralleled in Baba Qama 6:5 in a different formulation. we have stated: “If someone sets fire to a stack in which were hidden vessels, Rebbi Jehudah says, he pays for all that was in it. But the Sages say, he only pays for a stack of wheat or barley152Both Babli and Yerushalmi are agreed that the Mishnah refers only to a man who lights a legal fire on his own field and it burns out of control. But an arsonist has to pay for everything under any circumstance. The Babli (Baba Qama 61b) states that the Sages agree that whoever started the fire is responsible for agricultural implements usually hidden in stacks. Hence, in the opinion of the Babli but not the Yerushalmi, the Sages free him only from the responsibility for unexpected losses..” The argument of Rebbi Jehudah is inverted; there he says to include the hidden things, but here he says to exclude the hidden things. There (Ex. 22:5) “and a153This is the Biblical text, not “the stack” as given here. “If fire gets out of control and a stack, or the standing grain, or the field is consumed, the person who caused the fire should certainly pay.” stack or standing grain was consumed.” I understand that since it says “standing grain” it includes a stack. Why does the verse add “a stack?” In order to include the hidden things. But here (Deut. 24:10) “your field,” in the open, to exclude anything hidden. The argument of the rabbis is inverted; there they say to exclude the hidden things, but here they say to include the hidden things. There, “or standing grain or a field,” just as a field is in the open, so all must be in the open. But here, “your field,” in the open, to exclude that which is hidden; “your harvest,” in the open, to exclude that which is hidden. That is a restriction after a restriction and every restriction after a restriction is only154There is an אלא missing in the text or the אין is superfluous (Yebamot12:1). The principle that a restriction after a restriction is an extension is universally accepted in both Talmudim; in Horaiot 1:1 it is generalized to the statement that any sequence of restrictions of an even number of elements is an extension; for an odd number of elements it is a restriction. to add the hidden things.

Texts

  • Hebrew: The Jerusalem Talmud, edition by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015 · License: CC-BY
  • English: The Jerusalem Talmud, translation and commentary by Heinrich W. Guggenheimer. Berlin, De Gruyter, 1999-2015 · License: CC-BY

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