Talmud Yerushalmi
Yerushalmi Pesachim 6:2 ירושלמי פסחים ו׳:ב׳
Part of: Chapter 6
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משנה: אָמַר רִבִּי אֱלִיעֶזֶר וּמָה אִם שְׁחִיטָה שֶׁהִיא מִשּׁוּם מְלָאכָה דּוֹחָה אֶת הַשַּׁבָּת. אֵילּוּ שֶׁהֵן מִשּׁוּם שְׁבוּת לֹא יִדְחוּ אֶת הַשַּׁבָּת. אָמַר לוֹ רִבִּי יְהוֹשֻעַ יוֹם טוֹב יוֹכִיחַ שֶׁהִתִּיר בּוֹ מִשּׁוּם מְלָאכָה וְאָסַר בּוֹ מִשּׁוּם שְׁבוּת. אָמַר לוֹ רִבִּי אֱלִיעֶזֶר מַה זֶּה יְהוֹשֻעַ מָה רְאָיָה רְשׁוּת לַמִּצְוָה.
MISHNAH: Rebbi Eliezer said, if slaughter which is work54Slaughter is one of the 49 categories of work biblically forbidden on the Sabbath. pushes the Sabbath aside, should not these55The Mishnah is a continuation of Mishnah 1, where R. Eliezer holds that all actions needed for the Pesaḥ push aside the Sabbath. The discussion in particular is about the list of rabbinically prohibited actions at the end of Mishnah 1, which are permitted by R. Eliezer but prohibited by the Sages (represented by R. Joshua.), which are because of Sabbath rest, push the Sabbath aside? Rebbi Joshua said to him, holiday is a counter example, where He permitted the work but forbade because of Sabbath rest56Since preparation of food is permitted on a holiday, slaughter for meat is permitted. But the rules of rabbinic Sabbath rest apply to holiday as to the Sabbath.. Rebbi Eliezer answered whim, what is this, Joshua? What proof is option for obligation57Rules of preparation of profane food cannot teach anything for sacrifices.?
MISHNAH: Rebbi Eliezer said, if slaughter which is work54Slaughter is one of the 49 categories of work biblically forbidden on the Sabbath. pushes the Sabbath aside, should not these55The Mishnah is a continuation of Mishnah 1, where R. Eliezer holds that all actions needed for the Pesaḥ push aside the Sabbath. The discussion in particular is about the list of rabbinically prohibited actions at the end of Mishnah 1, which are permitted by R. Eliezer but prohibited by the Sages (represented by R. Joshua.), which are because of Sabbath rest, push the Sabbath aside? Rebbi Joshua said to him, holiday is a counter example, where He permitted the work but forbade because of Sabbath rest56Since preparation of food is permitted on a holiday, slaughter for meat is permitted. But the rules of rabbinic Sabbath rest apply to holiday as to the Sabbath.. Rebbi Eliezer answered whim, what is this, Joshua? What proof is option for obligation57Rules of preparation of profane food cannot teach anything for sacrifices.?
הלכה: מַה שְׁבוּת. לֹא כֵן תַּנִּינָן. הַמְחַלֵּל אֶת הַקֳּדָשִׁים. וְהַמְבַזֶּה אֶת הַמּוֹעֲדוֹת. וְהַמֵּיפֵר בְּרִיתוֹ שֶׁלְאַבְרָהָם אָבִינוּ. וְהַמְגַלֶּה פָנִים בַּתּוֹרָה. אַף עַל פִּי שֶׁיֵּשׁ בְּיָדוֹ תּוֹרָה וּמַעֲשִׂים טוֹבִים אֵין לוֹ חֵלֶק לָעוֹלָם הַבָּא. אָמַר רִבִּי יִרְמְיָה. מָהוּ רְשׁוּת. רָצָה בִישֵּׁל רָצָה לֹא בִישֵּׁל.
HALAKHAH: What does Sabbath rest mean? Did we not state72Mishnah Avot 3:11. Since there is an obligation to honor the holidays, is there not an obligation to slaughter animals for holiday meals. How can R. Eliezer call this optional?, “One who desecrates sancta, or abases the holidays, or breaks the Covenant of our father Abraham, or is insolent against the Torah, even if in his hands are learning and good deeds, has no part in the Future World.” Rebbi Jeremiah said, what is optional73There could have been meals prepared beforehand. There is no religious obligation to slaughter on a holiday, it truly is optional.? If he wants he cooks, if he does not want he does not cook.
HALAKHAH: What does Sabbath rest mean? Did we not state72Mishnah Avot 3:11. Since there is an obligation to honor the holidays, is there not an obligation to slaughter animals for holiday meals. How can R. Eliezer call this optional?, “One who desecrates sancta, or abases the holidays, or breaks the Covenant of our father Abraham, or is insolent against the Torah, even if in his hands are learning and good deeds, has no part in the Future World.” Rebbi Jeremiah said, what is optional73There could have been meals prepared beforehand. There is no religious obligation to slaughter on a holiday, it truly is optional.? If he wants he cooks, if he does not want he does not cook.
אָמַר רִבִּי יוֹסֵה. הָכֵין הֲוָה רִבִּי לִיעֶזֶר צָרִיךְ מִתְבַּזֶּה לְרִבִּי יְהוֹשֻׁעַ. הֲרֵי חֲגִיגַת יוֹם טוֹב כְּשִׁיטָתְךָ תּוֹכִיחַ. שֶׁהִתִּירוּ בָהּ מִשֵּׁם מְלָאכְה וְאָסְרוּ בָהּ מִשֵּׁם שְׁבוּת. וַהֲוָה לֵיהּ מֵימַר בָּהּ. לֹא. אִם אָמַרְתָּ בַחֲגִיגַת יוֹם טוֹב שֶׁאֵין חַיָיבִין עָלֶיהָ כָרֵת. תֹּאמַר בַּפֶּסַח שֶׁחַיָיבִין עָלָיו כָרֵת. וִיתִיבִינֵיהּ כְּמַתְנִיתִן. לֹא. אִם אָמַרְתָּ בְיוֹם טוֹב שֶׁאֵין חַיָיבִין עָלֶיהָ כָרֵת. תֹּאמַר בַּפֶּסַח שֶׁחַיָיבִין עָלָיו כָרֵת. כַּיי דָּמַר רִבִּי אִימִּי. עֲשִׁירִין הָיוּ בִתְשׁוּבוֹת. אוֹ יָיבֹא כַיי דָמַר רִבִּי נַסָּא. כְּאִינַשׁ דְּאִית לֵיהּ תְּרִין טְעָמִין וְהוּא מְתִיב חַד מִינְּהוֹן.
Rebbi Yose said, so should Rebbi Eliezer have embarrassed Rebbi Joshua. Does not the festival offering disprove according to your system, where they permitted the category of work but prohibited the category of Sabbath rest74Since R. Eliezer is a follower of the House of Shammai, who permit the festival sacrifice to be brought on the holiday but prohibit the (biblically required but purely rabbinically prohibited) laying of hands on the sacrificial animal, he would have to agree that not all rabbinic restrictions are waived on Sabbath and holiday.? He should have answered, no. If you are saying this about the festival offering about which one is not liable for extirpation, what can you say about Pesaḥ where one is liable for extirpation? He also could have objected as in the Mishnah: No, if you are saying this about the holiday about which one is not liable for extirpation, what can you say about Pesaḥ where one is liable for extirpation? It is as Rebbi Immi said, they were rich in answers75The same statements Kilaim 2:5 Note 89, Nazir 5:4 Note 109.. Or it may be as Rebbi Nassa said, like a man who has two arguments but he moves one of them.
Rebbi Yose said, so should Rebbi Eliezer have embarrassed Rebbi Joshua. Does not the festival offering disprove according to your system, where they permitted the category of work but prohibited the category of Sabbath rest74Since R. Eliezer is a follower of the House of Shammai, who permit the festival sacrifice to be brought on the holiday but prohibit the (biblically required but purely rabbinically prohibited) laying of hands on the sacrificial animal, he would have to agree that not all rabbinic restrictions are waived on Sabbath and holiday.? He should have answered, no. If you are saying this about the festival offering about which one is not liable for extirpation, what can you say about Pesaḥ where one is liable for extirpation? He also could have objected as in the Mishnah: No, if you are saying this about the holiday about which one is not liable for extirpation, what can you say about Pesaḥ where one is liable for extirpation? It is as Rebbi Immi said, they were rich in answers75The same statements Kilaim 2:5 Note 89, Nazir 5:4 Note 109.. Or it may be as Rebbi Nassa said, like a man who has two arguments but he moves one of them.