Talmud Yerushalmi
Yerushalmi Avodah Zarah 2:5 ירושלמי עבודה זרה ב׳:ה׳
Part of: Chapter 2
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משנה: הַחַרְצַנִּים וְהַזָּגִין שֶׁל גּוֹיִם אֲסוּרִין וְאִיסּוּרָן אִיסּוּר הֲנָאָה דִּבְרֵי רַבִּי מֵאִיר. וַחֲכָמִים אוֹמְרִים לַחִין אֲסוּרִין יְבֵישִׁין מוּתָּרִין.
MISHNAH: 260In the Mishnah this text follows Mishnah 5 which belongs to Halakhah 6. The sequence of the Halakhah also is the one in the Babli and Maimonides’s Mishnah Commentary. Gentiles’ grape kernels and skins261Which remain after the production of wine. are forbidden and the prohibition is of usufruct, the words of Rebbi Meïr. But the Sages say, moist they are forbidden, dry permitted.
MISHNAH: 260In the Mishnah this text follows Mishnah 5 which belongs to Halakhah 6. The sequence of the Halakhah also is the one in the Babli and Maimonides’s Mishnah Commentary. Gentiles’ grape kernels and skins261Which remain after the production of wine. are forbidden and the prohibition is of usufruct, the words of Rebbi Meïr. But the Sages say, moist they are forbidden, dry permitted.
הלכה: הַחַרְצַנִּים וְהַזָּגִין שֶׁלְּגוֹיִם כול׳. רַב שֵׁשֶׁת בְּשֵׁם רַב. לַחִים אֲסוּרִין אֲפִילוּ בִּהֲנָאָה. יְבֵישִׁין מוּתָּרִין אֲפִילוּ בַּאֲכִילָה. וְהָא תַנִּינָן. אֵינוֹ נַעֲשֶׂה יֵין נֶסֶךְ עַד שֶׁיֵּרֵד לַבּוֹר. רִבִּי בָּא בְשֵׁם רִבִּי יוּדָה. בְּמֵשִׁלָם לְתוֹךְ הַבּוֹר הִיא מַתְנִיתָא.
HALAKHAH: “Gentiles’ grape kernels and skins,” etc. Rav Sheshet in the name of Rav: Moist they are forbidden even for usufruct; dry they are permitted even to eat262In the Babli, 34a, ascribed to the Galilean R. Joḥanan.. But did we not state263Mishnah 4:8., “it does not become libation wine until it descends into the cistern264Grape juice pressed out of grapes does not become forbidden before it is collected in a vat below the wine press. Since kernels and skins are kept in the press they should not become forbidden.”? Rebbi Abba in the name of Rebbi Judah: The Mishnah is about one who lowers them into the cistern265The only skins forbidden are those put in the fermenting wine to give it red color..
HALAKHAH: “Gentiles’ grape kernels and skins,” etc. Rav Sheshet in the name of Rav: Moist they are forbidden even for usufruct; dry they are permitted even to eat262In the Babli, 34a, ascribed to the Galilean R. Joḥanan.. But did we not state263Mishnah 4:8., “it does not become libation wine until it descends into the cistern264Grape juice pressed out of grapes does not become forbidden before it is collected in a vat below the wine press. Since kernels and skins are kept in the press they should not become forbidden.”? Rebbi Abba in the name of Rebbi Judah: The Mishnah is about one who lowers them into the cistern265The only skins forbidden are those put in the fermenting wine to give it red color..
תַּמָּן תַּנִּינָן. וְכֵן בְּגֶפֶת חֲדָשָׁה. אֲבָל בִּישָׁנָה טָהוֹר. אֵי זוֹ הִיא חֲדָשָׁה. בְּתוֹךְ י״ב חוֹדֶשׁ. יְשָׁנָה לְאַחַר י״ב חוֹדֶשׁ.
There we have stated:266Mishnah Kelim9:5. “And so it is with new solid matter of olives; but old one is pure.267If the solid remnants in the olive press which remain after the production of oil are impure, they impart impurity only as long as they are somewhat moist. Once they are stone dry they do no longer impart impurity to clay vessels.” What is new? Within twelve months. Old, after twelve months268The same is true for grape skins used for the production of Gentile wine. Once they are completely dry, having dried out for a full 12 months, they are forbidden no longer; Babli 34a (attributed there to Samuel)..
There we have stated:266Mishnah Kelim9:5. “And so it is with new solid matter of olives; but old one is pure.267If the solid remnants in the olive press which remain after the production of oil are impure, they impart impurity only as long as they are somewhat moist. Once they are stone dry they do no longer impart impurity to clay vessels.” What is new? Within twelve months. Old, after twelve months268The same is true for grape skins used for the production of Gentile wine. Once they are completely dry, having dried out for a full 12 months, they are forbidden no longer; Babli 34a (attributed there to Samuel)..