Talmud Yerushalmi
Yerushalmi Chagigah 2:7 ירושלמי חגיגה ב׳:ז׳
Part of: Chapter 2
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משנה: בִּגְדֵי עַם הָאָרֶץ מִדְרָס לַפְּרוּשִׁים. בִּגְדֵי פְּרוּשִׁים מִדְרָס לְאוֹכְלֵי תְּרוּמָה. בִּגְדֵי אוֹכְלֵי תְּרוּמָה מִדְרָס לַקּוֹדֶשׁ. יוֹסֵי בֶּן יוֹעֶזֶר הָיָה חָסִיד שֶׁבַּכְּהוּנָּה וְהָיְתָה מִטְפַּחְתּוֹ מִדְרָס לַקּוֹדֶשׁ. יוֹחָנָן בֶּן גּוּדְגְּדָא הָיָה אוֹכֵל עַל טָהֳרַת הַקּוֹדֶשׁ כָּל יָמָיו וְהָיְתָה מִטְפַּחְתּוֹ מִדְרָס לַחַטָּאת:
MISHNAH: The garments of the vulgar211A person who disregards the rules of impurity (unless on a pilgrimage to the Temple); cf. Introduction to Tractate Demay. are “support”212Rabbinically it is considered a source of original impurity. The expression “support” comes from the severe impurity of a menstruating woman where Lev. 15:21 implies that any implement which had supported her body (chair or bed) imparts impurity to anybody touching it and his garments. for Pharisees213People observing the laws on impurity in their daily lives.; the garments of Pharisees are “support” for the eaters of heave; the garments of eaters of heave are “support” for the eaters of sancta. Yose ben Yoezer214Cf. Mishnah 2:2. was the most pious of the priests but his handkerchief217If the wife of the vulgar, still a source of original impurity from her period, sat on the garment, the latter became an original source of impurity. Therefore there is a (slim) possibility that the Pharisaic restriction correspond to a case of actual biblical impurity. Babli Ḥulin 35b. was “support” for sancta. Joḥanan ben Gudgada all his life ate in the purity of sancta but his handkerchief was “support” for the ashes of the Red Cow215But not for the eaters of sancta. This Mishnah contradicts the practice established after the destruction of the Temple which considers profane food eaten in the purity of sancta not different from other profane food (Note 180)..
MISHNAH: The garments of the vulgar211A person who disregards the rules of impurity (unless on a pilgrimage to the Temple); cf. Introduction to Tractate Demay. are “support”212Rabbinically it is considered a source of original impurity. The expression “support” comes from the severe impurity of a menstruating woman where Lev. 15:21 implies that any implement which had supported her body (chair or bed) imparts impurity to anybody touching it and his garments. for Pharisees213People observing the laws on impurity in their daily lives.; the garments of Pharisees are “support” for the eaters of heave; the garments of eaters of heave are “support” for the eaters of sancta. Yose ben Yoezer214Cf. Mishnah 2:2. was the most pious of the priests but his handkerchief217If the wife of the vulgar, still a source of original impurity from her period, sat on the garment, the latter became an original source of impurity. Therefore there is a (slim) possibility that the Pharisaic restriction correspond to a case of actual biblical impurity. Babli Ḥulin 35b. was “support” for sancta. Joḥanan ben Gudgada all his life ate in the purity of sancta but his handkerchief was “support” for the ashes of the Red Cow215But not for the eaters of sancta. This Mishnah contradicts the practice established after the destruction of the Temple which considers profane food eaten in the purity of sancta not different from other profane food (Note 180)..
הלכה: רִבִּי יָסָא בְשֵׁם רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן. בְּמַגָעוֹת שָׁנוּ. רִבִּי זְעוּרָה בָעָא קוֹמֵי רִבִּי יָסָא. מֵאֵיכָן נִיטְמָא הַבֶּגֶד הַזֶּה מִדְרָס. אָמַר לֵיהּ. תֵּיפְתָּר שֶׁהָיְתָה אִשְׁתּוֹ שֶׁלְעַם הָאָרֶץ יוֹשֶׁבֶת עָלָיו עֲרוּמָה. שְׁמוּאֵל בַּר אַבָּא בָעָא קוֹמֵי רִבִּי זְעוּרָה. כַּמָּה דַתְּ אָמַר תַּמָּן. אֵין הֵיסֵּט בַּחוּלִין. וְיֵשׁ הֵיסֵּט בַּחוּלִין עַל יְדֵי מַגַּע. וְדִכְוָותָהּ אֵין מַשָּׂא בַּחוּלִין. וְיֵשׁ מַשָּׂא בַחוּלִין עַל יְדֵי מַגָּע. רִבִּי שְׁמוּאֵל אָחוֹי דְּרִבִּי הוֹשַׁעְיָה אָמַר. רִבִּי יִרְמְיָה בָעֵי. יָשְּׁבָה עַל הַכִּסֵּא וְנָגְעָה בוֹ. מַה נַפְשֵׁךְ. אִם מַשָּׂא הֲרֵי מַשָּׂא. אִם מַגָּע הֲרֵי מַגָּע. כְּמַה דַתְּ אָמַר בְּמַשָּׂא. עַד שֶׁיִנָּשֵּׂא רוּבּוֹ. וְדִכְוָותָהּ בְּמַגָּע. עַד שֶׁיִּגַּע בְּרוּבּוֹ.
HALAKHAH: Rebbi Yasa in the name of Rebbi Joḥanan: They stated it for touchings216The garments of a vulgar make a Pharisee impure by touch but not by load nor by “support”.. Rebbi Ze`ira asked before Rebbi Yasa, from where did this garment become impure by support? He told him, explain it that the vulgar’s wife sat on it naked217If the wife of the vulgar, still a source of original impurity from her period, sat on the garment, the latter became an original source of impurity. Therefore there is a (slim) possibility that the Pharisaic restriction correspond to a case of actual biblical impurity. Babli Ḥulin 35b.. Samuel bar Abba asked before Rebbi Ze`ira: As you are saying there, there is no “support” for profane food but there is “support” for profane food by touching218Only humans and implements can become impure by load or “support” but foodstuffs become impure only by touch., similarly there is no load for profane food but there is load for profane food by touching. Rebbi Samuel the brother of Rebbi Hoshaia said, Rebbi Jeremiah asked, if she sat on a chair and touched it219What is the status of the chair?? As you look at it, if load, there is load; it touching there is touching220In both cases the status of the impurity is the same.. As you are saying about load, on condition that most of it be carried, similarly if most of it be touched221R. Jeremiah has a point; the two sources of impurity are not equivalent. For impurity by load or “support”, most of the weight of the cause of impurity must be carried or must be loaded on, but the smallest amount of touching has the same consequence as touching most of the impure surface area.?
HALAKHAH: Rebbi Yasa in the name of Rebbi Joḥanan: They stated it for touchings216The garments of a vulgar make a Pharisee impure by touch but not by load nor by “support”.. Rebbi Ze`ira asked before Rebbi Yasa, from where did this garment become impure by support? He told him, explain it that the vulgar’s wife sat on it naked217If the wife of the vulgar, still a source of original impurity from her period, sat on the garment, the latter became an original source of impurity. Therefore there is a (slim) possibility that the Pharisaic restriction correspond to a case of actual biblical impurity. Babli Ḥulin 35b.. Samuel bar Abba asked before Rebbi Ze`ira: As you are saying there, there is no “support” for profane food but there is “support” for profane food by touching218Only humans and implements can become impure by load or “support” but foodstuffs become impure only by touch., similarly there is no load for profane food but there is load for profane food by touching. Rebbi Samuel the brother of Rebbi Hoshaia said, Rebbi Jeremiah asked, if she sat on a chair and touched it219What is the status of the chair?? As you look at it, if load, there is load; it touching there is touching220In both cases the status of the impurity is the same.. As you are saying about load, on condition that most of it be carried, similarly if most of it be touched221R. Jeremiah has a point; the two sources of impurity are not equivalent. For impurity by load or “support”, most of the weight of the cause of impurity must be carried or must be loaded on, but the smallest amount of touching has the same consequence as touching most of the impure surface area.?
גּוּפוֹ שֶׁלְפָּרוּשׁ מָהוּ שֶׁיֵיעָשֶׂה כְּזָב אֶצֶל הַתְּרוּמָה. הָתֵיב רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן. וְהָא תַנִּינָן. הַמַּנִּיחַ עַם הָאָרֶץ בְּתוֹךְ בֵּיתוֹ לְשׁוֹמְרוֹ. בִּזְמָן שֶׁהוּא רוֹאֶה אֶת הַנִּכְנָסִין וְאֶת הַיּוֹצְאִין. הָאוֹכָלִין וְהַמַּשְׁקִין וכְלֵי חֶרֶשׂ פְּתוּחִין טְמֵאִין. אֲבָל הַמִּשְׁכָּבוֹת וְהַמּוֹשָׁבוֹת וּכְלֵי חֶרֶשׂ מוּקָּפִין צָמִיד פָּתִיל טָהוֹר. אִין תֵּימַר. עָשׂוּ גוּפוֹ כְּזָב אֶצֶל הַתְּרוּמָה. אֲפִילוּ מוּקָּפִין צָמִיד [פְּתִיל] יִהְיוּ טְמֵאִין. אָמַר רִבִּי יוּדָה בַּר פָּזִי. תִּיפְתָּר בְּעַם הָאָרֶץ אֶצֶל הַפָּרוּשׁ. וְלֵית שְׁמַע מִינָהּ כְּלוּם. אָמַר רִבִּי מָנָא. כֵן אָמַר רִבִּי יּוֹסֵה רִבִּי. כָּל מַה דַאֲנָן קַיָימִין הָכָא בִתְרוּמָה אֲנָן קַיָימִין. תֵּדַע לָךְ שֶׁהוּא כֵן. דְּתַנִּינָן תַּמָּן. אֲפִיל מוּבָל אֲפִילוּ כָפוּת הַכֹּל טָמֵא. כְּלוּם אָמְרוּ טְמֵאִים לֹא מִשֵּׁם הֶיסֵּט. לֹא כֵן אָמַר רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן. לֹא חֲצָצוֹת וְלֹא הֶסֵּיטוֹת וְלא [רְשׁוּת הַיָּחִיד וְלֹא] עַם הָאָרֶץ אֶצֶל הַתְּרוּמָה. גּוּפָהּ שֶׁלְתְּרוּמָה מָהוּ שֶׁיֵּעָשֶׂה כְּזָב אֶצֶל הַקּוֹדֶשׁ. נִישְׁמְעִינָהּ מִן הָדָא. הַחוֹתֵךְ שְׁפוֹפֶרֶת שֶׁלְקוֹדֶשׁ. הַחוֹתְכָהּ וְהַמַּטְבִּילָהּ טָעוּן טְבִילָה. נִיחָא חוֹתְכָהּ. מַטְבִּילָהּ. וְיַכְרִכֶינָּהּ (בְּסִיט) [בְּסִיב] וְיַטָבִּילָהּ. אֶלָּא תִּיפְתָּר בְּשֶׁחָתְכָהּ עַל מְנַת לְהַטְבִּילָהּ. גּוּפוֹ שֶׁלְקוֹדֶשׁ מָהוּ שֶׁיֵּיעָשֶׂה כְּזָב אֶצֶל הַחַטָּאת. נִישְׁמְעִינָהּ מִן הָדָא. שְׁנֵי לָגִינִים. אֶחָד טָהוֹר לַקּוֹדֶשׁ וְאֶחָד טָהוֹר לַתְּרוּמָה. שֶׁנָּגְעוּ זֶה בָזֶה. שְׁנֵיהֶן טְהוֹרִין. וְהָא מַתְנִיתָה פְלִיגָא. עָשָׂה אֶת הַטָּהוֹר לַחַטָּאת שֶׁהִיסִּיט בִּרוֹקוֹ וּבְשִׁכְבַת זַרְעוֹ שֶׁל טָהוֹר לַתְּרוּמָה וְנִיטְמָא. הִיא טָהוֹר לַתְּרוּמָה הִיא טָהוֹר לַקּוֹדֶשׁ.
May the body of a Pharisee be considered like that of a sufferer from gonorrhea for heave222If the garments of a Pharisee are impure like those of a sufferer from gonorrhea, is it not reasonable to expect the same from the Pharisee’s body?? Rebbi Joḥanan asked, but did we not state223Mishnah Taharot 7:5., “somebody who let a vulgar watch his house, at times when he sees those who enter and those who leave, food, and drinks, and open clay vessels are impure. But couches and seats and clay vessels tightly wound closed are pure224As long as the Pharisee has control over the stream of visitors, only things impure by touch are considered impure; the vulgar is not supposed to cause impurity by sitting on something even though this would be the cause of biblical original impurity (not only derivative impurity as in the case of touch) if the vulgar actually were a sufferer from gonorrhea.”? If you are saying, they considered the body of a Pharisee like that of a sufferer from gonorrhea for heave then even those tightly [wound] closed should be impure225Since the exception for tightly closed vessels applies only to tent impurity.. Rebbi Jehudah bar Pazi said, explain it concerning a vulgar at a Pharisee’s, and you cannot infer anything226The entire Mishnah refers to ordinary impurity on the level of profane food and is irrelevant for the question raised here.. Rebbi Mana said, so said my teacher Rebbi Yose, all that we are considering here227The Mishnah in Taharot. refers to heave. You may know that this is so, since we have stated there, “even moved, even tied, everything is impure.” Did they not say they are impure, not because moving228The part of the Mishnah quoted here refers to the situation that the Pharisee has no control over the stream of visitors which therefore may include menstruating women which may make seats and couches impure by biblical standards. This proves that these arguments do not apply to the vulgar himself and that therefore also the Mishnah here has to be read to apply to garments only and to nothing else.? Did not Rebbi Joḥanan say, concerning heave there is neither separations, nor movings, nor [private domain, nor] vulgar229Rabbinic extensions of impurity do not apply except in cases where they are mentioned explicitly. The corrector’s addition has to be deleted since it refers to a rule, that questionable cases in private domains have to be judged restrictively, which by general consensus is of biblical status.. May heave itself be considered like a sufferer from gonorrhea in relation to sancta230Same question as that referred to in Note 222.? Let us hear from the following. If one cuts a tube for sancta, he who cuts it and he who immerses it need immersion. One understands he who cuts. He who immerses231If he prepares vessels for use with sancta but he himself is not pure for the consumption of sancta, it is clear that the vessels must be immersed since by necessity he touched them. But immersion may be done indirectly as described.? Could he not bind it with a (sit)232Here the corrector’s text has to be accepted since the scribe’s sit is a measure, half a hand-breadth. [fiber] and immerse it? But explain it that he cut it in order to immerse it231If he prepares vessels for use with sancta but he himself is not pure for the consumption of sancta, it is clear that the vessels must be immersed since by necessity he touched them. But immersion may be done indirectly as described.. May a sanctum itself be considered like a sufferer from gonorrhea in relation to the ashes of the Red Cow? Let us hear from the following. Two pitchers, one pure for sancta and one pure for heave, who touched one another are both pure233Mishnah 7 applies only to humans, not to vessels.. But does not a baraita disagree? They made that the person pure for the ashes of the Cow who moved spittle or semen of one pure for heave that it became impure234Spittle is biblically original impurity for the sufferer from gonorrhea; it is pure for the person pure for heave. But semen is biblically impure from everybody. Therefore for the rabbinic extensions described in Mishnah 7 there is no difference in the rules according to levels of impurity.. The same is pure for heave and pure for sancta.
May the body of a Pharisee be considered like that of a sufferer from gonorrhea for heave222If the garments of a Pharisee are impure like those of a sufferer from gonorrhea, is it not reasonable to expect the same from the Pharisee’s body?? Rebbi Joḥanan asked, but did we not state223Mishnah Taharot 7:5., “somebody who let a vulgar watch his house, at times when he sees those who enter and those who leave, food, and drinks, and open clay vessels are impure. But couches and seats and clay vessels tightly wound closed are pure224As long as the Pharisee has control over the stream of visitors, only things impure by touch are considered impure; the vulgar is not supposed to cause impurity by sitting on something even though this would be the cause of biblical original impurity (not only derivative impurity as in the case of touch) if the vulgar actually were a sufferer from gonorrhea.”? If you are saying, they considered the body of a Pharisee like that of a sufferer from gonorrhea for heave then even those tightly [wound] closed should be impure225Since the exception for tightly closed vessels applies only to tent impurity.. Rebbi Jehudah bar Pazi said, explain it concerning a vulgar at a Pharisee’s, and you cannot infer anything226The entire Mishnah refers to ordinary impurity on the level of profane food and is irrelevant for the question raised here.. Rebbi Mana said, so said my teacher Rebbi Yose, all that we are considering here227The Mishnah in Taharot. refers to heave. You may know that this is so, since we have stated there, “even moved, even tied, everything is impure.” Did they not say they are impure, not because moving228The part of the Mishnah quoted here refers to the situation that the Pharisee has no control over the stream of visitors which therefore may include menstruating women which may make seats and couches impure by biblical standards. This proves that these arguments do not apply to the vulgar himself and that therefore also the Mishnah here has to be read to apply to garments only and to nothing else.? Did not Rebbi Joḥanan say, concerning heave there is neither separations, nor movings, nor [private domain, nor] vulgar229Rabbinic extensions of impurity do not apply except in cases where they are mentioned explicitly. The corrector’s addition has to be deleted since it refers to a rule, that questionable cases in private domains have to be judged restrictively, which by general consensus is of biblical status.. May heave itself be considered like a sufferer from gonorrhea in relation to sancta230Same question as that referred to in Note 222.? Let us hear from the following. If one cuts a tube for sancta, he who cuts it and he who immerses it need immersion. One understands he who cuts. He who immerses231If he prepares vessels for use with sancta but he himself is not pure for the consumption of sancta, it is clear that the vessels must be immersed since by necessity he touched them. But immersion may be done indirectly as described.? Could he not bind it with a (sit)232Here the corrector’s text has to be accepted since the scribe’s sit is a measure, half a hand-breadth. [fiber] and immerse it? But explain it that he cut it in order to immerse it231If he prepares vessels for use with sancta but he himself is not pure for the consumption of sancta, it is clear that the vessels must be immersed since by necessity he touched them. But immersion may be done indirectly as described.. May a sanctum itself be considered like a sufferer from gonorrhea in relation to the ashes of the Red Cow? Let us hear from the following. Two pitchers, one pure for sancta and one pure for heave, who touched one another are both pure233Mishnah 7 applies only to humans, not to vessels.. But does not a baraita disagree? They made that the person pure for the ashes of the Cow who moved spittle or semen of one pure for heave that it became impure234Spittle is biblically original impurity for the sufferer from gonorrhea; it is pure for the person pure for heave. But semen is biblically impure from everybody. Therefore for the rabbinic extensions described in Mishnah 7 there is no difference in the rules according to levels of impurity.. The same is pure for heave and pure for sancta.