Talmud Yerushalmi
Yerushalmi Chagigah 3:5 ירושלמי חגיגה ג׳:ה׳
Part of: Chapter 3
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משנה: מִן הַמּוֹדִיעִית וְלִפְנִים נֶאֱמָנִין עַל כְּלֵי חֶרֶשׁ. וֹמִן הַמּוֹדִיעִית וְלַחוּץ אֵין נֶאֱמָנִין. כֵּיצַד הַקַּדָּר שֶׁהוּא מוֹכֵר אֶת הַקְּדֵירוֹת נִכְנַס לִפְנִים מִן הַמּוֹדִיעִית הוּא הַקַּדָּר וְהֵן הַקְּדֵירוֹת וְהֵן הַלּוֹקְחִין נֶאֱמָן. יָצָא אֵינוֹ נֶאֱמָן:
MISHNAH: From Modiin and closer one is trustworthy about clay vessels, but from Modiin and outside one is not trustworthy. How is this? The potter171Who usually is a vulgar, not trustworthy in matters of purity. who sells pots172The kinds used to cook sancta in. The problem with clay vessels is that they cannot be made pure once they are impure. Now the remainders of meat absorbed in the porous walls of clay vessels become forbidden and impure leftover meat after the time allotted to its consumption and therefore must be broken (Lev.6:21). If only fellows could supply clay vessels for sancta, everybody would have to use expensive metal vessels., if he is inside from Modiin then the potter, the pots, and the buyers173The buyer who affirms that he bought the pot at a place closer to Jerusalem than Modiin., are trustworthy. If he left he is not trustworthy174Even about pots he sold at a place closer to Jerusalem than Modiin..
MISHNAH: From Modiin and closer one is trustworthy about clay vessels, but from Modiin and outside one is not trustworthy. How is this? The potter171Who usually is a vulgar, not trustworthy in matters of purity. who sells pots172The kinds used to cook sancta in. The problem with clay vessels is that they cannot be made pure once they are impure. Now the remainders of meat absorbed in the porous walls of clay vessels become forbidden and impure leftover meat after the time allotted to its consumption and therefore must be broken (Lev.6:21). If only fellows could supply clay vessels for sancta, everybody would have to use expensive metal vessels., if he is inside from Modiin then the potter, the pots, and the buyers173The buyer who affirms that he bought the pot at a place closer to Jerusalem than Modiin., are trustworthy. If he left he is not trustworthy174Even about pots he sold at a place closer to Jerusalem than Modiin..
הלכה: מַתְנִיתָה בִּכְלֵי חֶרֶשׂ הַדָּקִּים. מַתְנִיתָה אָמְרָה כֵן. הוּא הַקַּדָּר וְהֵן הַקְּדֵירוֹת וְהֵן הַלּוֹקְחִין. וּקְדֵירוֹת לֹא כְלֵי חֶרֶשׂ דָּקִּין הֵן.
HALAKHAH: The Mishnah is about small clay vessels. The Mishnah implies this: “the potter, the pots, and the buyers.” And are pots not small clay vessels175Vessels of daily use, not large vats. Babli 26a.?
HALAKHAH: The Mishnah is about small clay vessels. The Mishnah implies this: “the potter, the pots, and the buyers.” And are pots not small clay vessels175Vessels of daily use, not large vats. Babli 26a.?
נָגְעוּ בוֹ טַהֲרוֹת. מִן הַמּוֹדִיעִית וְלִפְנִים טִימֵּא מַשְׁקֶה אֶת הַכֶּלִי. הָיָה מָלֵא מַיִם. רִבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן לָקִישׁ אָמַר. נֶאֱמָן עַל הַכֶּלִי וְאֵינוֹ נֶאֱמָן עַל הַמַּשְׁקֶה. רִבִּי יוֹחָנָן אָמַר. נֶאֱמָן עַל זֶה וְעַל זֶה. מַתְנִיתָה פְלִיגָא עַל רִבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן לָקִישׁ. אִם אָמַר לוֹ הִפְרַשְׁתִּי לְתוֹכָהּ רְבִיעִית קוֹדֶשׁ נֶאֱמָן. אָמַר רִבִּי זְעוּרָה. תִּיפְתָּר בָּאוֹמֵר. עַד שֶׁאֲנִי חָבֵר הִפְרַשְׁתִּיהָ. רַבָּנִן דְּקַיְסָרִין בְּשֵׁם רִבִּי בּוּן בַּר חִיָיה. טַעְמָא דְרִבִּי שִׁמְעוֹן בֶּן לָקִישׁ אֵין חֲבֵירוּת לַמַּיִם.
If food prepared in purity touched it, from Modiin and closer the fluid made the vessel impure176While the vulgar is to be believed if near Jerusalem he stated that a clay vessel was pure, this refers only to empty vessels. If the vessel contains food, according to R. Joḥanan one says that since he is trustworthy about the vessel he also is trustworthy for its contents. This is denied by R. Simeon ben Laqish; therefore the statement under consideration is R. Simeon ben Laqish’s, not accepted by R. Joḥanan. The text mentions fluid because impure fluids always are impure in the first degree and make clay vessels impure in their interior.. If it was filled with water, Rebbi Simeon ben Laqish said, he is trustworthy about the vessel but not trustworthy about the fluid. Rebbi Joḥanan said, he is trustworthy about both. A Mishnah disagrees with Rebbi Simeon ben Laqish: “Only if he said, I put into it a quartarius of sanctum he is trustworthy148Since the Temple wine makes him observant of the rules of purity..” Rebbi Ze`ira said, explain it about one who said, I separated it when I was fellow177The vulgar is not trusted if he affirms that the food was prepared under the supervision of a fellow.. The rabbis of Caesarea in the name of Rebbi Abun bar Ḥiyya: The reason of Rebbi Simeon ben Laqish, there is no fellowship for water178He holds that even on a holiday, on which all of Israel are considered fellows, no vulgar is trustworthy to testify about water..
If food prepared in purity touched it, from Modiin and closer the fluid made the vessel impure176While the vulgar is to be believed if near Jerusalem he stated that a clay vessel was pure, this refers only to empty vessels. If the vessel contains food, according to R. Joḥanan one says that since he is trustworthy about the vessel he also is trustworthy for its contents. This is denied by R. Simeon ben Laqish; therefore the statement under consideration is R. Simeon ben Laqish’s, not accepted by R. Joḥanan. The text mentions fluid because impure fluids always are impure in the first degree and make clay vessels impure in their interior.. If it was filled with water, Rebbi Simeon ben Laqish said, he is trustworthy about the vessel but not trustworthy about the fluid. Rebbi Joḥanan said, he is trustworthy about both. A Mishnah disagrees with Rebbi Simeon ben Laqish: “Only if he said, I put into it a quartarius of sanctum he is trustworthy148Since the Temple wine makes him observant of the rules of purity..” Rebbi Ze`ira said, explain it about one who said, I separated it when I was fellow177The vulgar is not trusted if he affirms that the food was prepared under the supervision of a fellow.. The rabbis of Caesarea in the name of Rebbi Abun bar Ḥiyya: The reason of Rebbi Simeon ben Laqish, there is no fellowship for water178He holds that even on a holiday, on which all of Israel are considered fellows, no vulgar is trustworthy to testify about water..