Talmud Yerushalmi
Yerushalmi Sukkah 3:9 ירושלמי סוכה ג׳:ט׳
Part of: Chapter 3
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משנה: מִי שֶׁהָיָה עֶבֶד אוֹ אִשָּׁה אוֹ קָטָן מַקְרִין אוֹתוֹ עוֹנֶה אַחֲרֵיהֶן מַה שֶּׁהֵן אוֹמְרִין וּתְהִי לוֹ מְאֵירָה. אִם הָיָה גָדוֹל מַקְרֶא אוֹתוֹ עוֹנֶה אַחֲרָיו הַלְלוּיָהּ:
MISHNAH: A person to whom a slave, or a woman, or a minor, read for him, repeats after them what they say, and it should be a curse for him. If a male adult reads for him, he answers halleluja after him109An illiterate who does not know the Hallel by heart, must have the psalms recited to him to make the movements prescribed in Mishnah 8. If a person who is not obligated to recite the Hallel and to move the lulav(a slave, woman, or minor) recites for him, he does not fulfill his duty by listening to them; he must repeat word for word. He is cursed for being an adult illiterate. If an obligated person reads for him, he is not different from people listening to the reader in the synagogue and answers halleluja123 times (cf. Šabbat Chapter 16, Note 59)..
MISHNAH: A person to whom a slave, or a woman, or a minor, read for him, repeats after them what they say, and it should be a curse for him. If a male adult reads for him, he answers halleluja after him109An illiterate who does not know the Hallel by heart, must have the psalms recited to him to make the movements prescribed in Mishnah 8. If a person who is not obligated to recite the Hallel and to move the lulav(a slave, woman, or minor) recites for him, he does not fulfill his duty by listening to them; he must repeat word for word. He is cursed for being an adult illiterate. If an obligated person reads for him, he is not different from people listening to the reader in the synagogue and answers halleluja123 times (cf. Šabbat Chapter 16, Note 59)..
הלכה: תַּנֵּי. אֲבָל אָמְרוּ. אִשָּׁה מְבָרֶכֶת לְבַעֲלָהּ וְעֶבֶד לְרַבּוֹ וְקָטָן לְאָבִיו. נִיחָא אִשָּׁה מְבָרֶכֶת לְבַעֲלָהּ. עֶבֶד לְרַבּוֹ. קָטָן לְאָבִיו. לֹא כֵן אָמַר רִבִּי אָחָא בְשֵׁם רִבִּי יוֹסֵי בֶן נְהוֹרַיי. כָּל שֶׁאָמְרוּ בְקָטָן כְּדֵי לְחַנְּכוֹ. תִּיפְתָּר. בְּעוֹנֶה אַחֲרֵיהֶן אָמֵן. כַּהִיא דְתַנִּינָן תַּמָּן. מִי שֶׁהָיָה עֶבֶד אוֹ אִשָּׁה אוֹ קָטָן מַקְרִין אוֹתוֹ וְעוֹנֶה אַחֲרֵיהֶן מַה שֶּׁהֵן אוֹמְרִין וּתְהֵא לוֹ מְאֵירָה. [וְעוֹד אָמְרוּ.] תָּבוֹא מְאֵירָה לְבֶן עֶשְׂרִים שֶׁהוּא צָרִיךְ לְבֶן עֶשֶׂר.
HALAKHAH: 110This Halakhah is copied from Berakhot3:3, Notes 153–157, ב. It also is copied in Roš Haššanah3:10, ר. It is stated: 111Babli 38a, Berakhot20b; Tosephta Berakhot5:11.“In truth, they said a woman may say Grace for her husband, a slave for his master, and a minor for his father. One understands a woman for her husband, a slave for his master112Since they are obligated to say Grace after a meal. The Yerushalmi has no problem with women or slaves but for the Babli the question remains whether women may in fact recite Grace for males who have an obligation from the Torah, i. e., who actually ate their fill.. A minor for his father? Did not Rebbi Aḥa say in the name of Rebbi Yose bar Nahora: All they said about a minor is for the latter's education113The minor must be educated; there is an obligation on the father to teach him all religious obligations but the minor himself is not obligated and therefore cannot perform any religious duty for others.? Explain it that he recites after him, as we stated there114Verses Ps. 118:21–29 are customarily recited twice; either everybody recites them twice or the reader sings them first and the congregation repeats after him; cf. the author’s The Scholar’s Haggadah, p.368. In the Yemenite rite, also the starting clauses of Pss. 114, 116, 117, 118 are repeated by the congregation.: “A person to whom a slave, or a woman, or a minor, read for him, repeats after them what they say, and it should be a curse for him.” [Also they said,] there should be a curse on the man of twenty years who needs the child of ten.
HALAKHAH: 110This Halakhah is copied from Berakhot3:3, Notes 153–157, ב. It also is copied in Roš Haššanah3:10, ר. It is stated: 111Babli 38a, Berakhot20b; Tosephta Berakhot5:11.“In truth, they said a woman may say Grace for her husband, a slave for his master, and a minor for his father. One understands a woman for her husband, a slave for his master112Since they are obligated to say Grace after a meal. The Yerushalmi has no problem with women or slaves but for the Babli the question remains whether women may in fact recite Grace for males who have an obligation from the Torah, i. e., who actually ate their fill.. A minor for his father? Did not Rebbi Aḥa say in the name of Rebbi Yose bar Nahora: All they said about a minor is for the latter's education113The minor must be educated; there is an obligation on the father to teach him all religious obligations but the minor himself is not obligated and therefore cannot perform any religious duty for others.? Explain it that he recites after him, as we stated there114Verses Ps. 118:21–29 are customarily recited twice; either everybody recites them twice or the reader sings them first and the congregation repeats after him; cf. the author’s The Scholar’s Haggadah, p.368. In the Yemenite rite, also the starting clauses of Pss. 114, 116, 117, 118 are repeated by the congregation.: “A person to whom a slave, or a woman, or a minor, read for him, repeats after them what they say, and it should be a curse for him.” [Also they said,] there should be a curse on the man of twenty years who needs the child of ten.